do egg cartons work?

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Cos my brother eats a lot of eggs and i might just start saving the cartons
 
Absolutely! Everybody says they don't work, but it's bullshit. Each one of them will hold a dozen eggs. What's not to love?-Richie
After I nailed the egg cartons to the wall, all the eggs kept falling out.
 
Another thing to consider is flammability. Take an egg carton outside and put a match to it! Then ask yourself, "Do I still want this on my studio walls?"

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I don't know about egg cartons, but I've heard one, and only one, instance of eggshell foam working. There's a guy here that goes by PoeticIntesity, and he did an A/B test with tracking drums in a plain untreated room, and then the same room with eggshell foam. There was a noticeable difference.
 
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I don't know about egg cartons, but I've heard one, and only one, instance of eggshell foam working. There's a guy here that goes by PoeticIntesity, and he did an A/B test with tracking drums in a plain untreated room, and then the same room with eggshell foam. There was a noticeable difference.

and need i even mention that in Ransom the movie, they coat the room where they keep the kidnapped kid in egg boxes, to prevent sound leakage
 
and need i even mention that in Ransom the movie, they coat the room where they keep the kidnapped kid in egg boxes, to prevent sound leakage

1) Mel Gibson wasn't a raging alcoholic in it either. Don't believe everything you see in movies :laughings:

2) That's sound-proofing, not acoustical treatment.
 
Well heck, up here in New Hampsha puttn' up egg cratins work just fine.
Just confuses the hell out of the chickens.
 
they seem to think that they do work in that link


No they don't.........

the fact that a product has a NRC value doesn't mean that it works........

A human body has a NRC value as well - that doesn't mean they will serve the purpose for room treatments........

to begin with a NRC OF .4 is not much in the way of noise reduction.

Then there is this comment made by Acoustics First:

However, the graph tells the rest of the story. While commercial products exhibit a smooth curve, there is a "pothole" in the acoustical road with egg cartons.

Just a quick glance at the numbers tells the whole story.
 
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No they don't.........

the fact that a product has a NRC value doesn't mean that it works........

A human body has a NRC value as well - that doesn't mean they will serve the purpose for room treatments........

to begin with a NRC OF .4 is not much in the way of noise reduction.

Then there is this comment made by Acoustics First:



Just a quick glance at the numbers tells the whole story.



I didn't understand the numbers, but I wouldn't use egg cartons, I just thought id hold on to some and put them on the walls of my wardrobe and see what it sounded like, obviously I wouldn't literally build and entire studio with egg carton walls, and toilet paper tube microphones and bits of trees for guitars and cardboard box amps...actually..
 
2) That's sound-proofing, not acoustical treatment.

And egg cartons are arguably even worse at sound proofing than at acoustical treatment.

Certainly egg foam has no appreciable effect on sound-proofing.

I'm an expert, 'cause I did the egg carton thing back in the 70s and it didn't do shit.
 
The left says yes, the right says no - and the more I learn, the less I know........

An interesting quote by the late producer Tony Clarke (sometime known for his work with the Moody Blues in their hot phase and for trying to record King Crimson before their debut) talking about recording the Equals' "Baby come back", recorded in 1966 (though it was a hit in '68. It's one of the earliest songs I remember and the band was racially mixed which was really rare for the UK at the time)

It was a nice feeling, your first number one.
At the time everything was Carnaby Street, gaudy neon. We actually recorded the Equals at Regent Sound in what was known as Tin Pan Alley Denmark Street, down under the pavement where they stuck egg boxes on the walls of the ceiling as soundproofing. Proper acoustics were unheard of, that came later when we got to build our own studio!

The noise reduction coefficient is the average of the coefficients 250, 500, 1000 and 2000Hz expressed the nearest integral multiple of 0.05

I joined Home recording.com for this ? :D

Cos my brother eats a lot of eggs and i might just start saving the cartons

Maybe buy him a couple of hens to reduce the temptation ?

I don't know about egg cartons, but I've heard one, and only one, instance of eggshell foam working. There's a guy here that goes by PoeticIntesity, and he did an A/B test with tracking drums in a plain untreated room, and then the same room with eggshell foam. There was a noticeable difference.

and egg crates for diffusing on the inside.
Ok all you perfectionists and sound engineers...pick away!!:D

Not sound proof, but isolates my condenser mics from computer fans and most peripheral noise. Actually, considering the mony I got in it (Couple hundred or so) it works pretty damned good.

It's a long time since I've seen someone on here ACTUALLY use egg cartons! Bloody hell, that place is a death trap!

if it works for you, power to you. And extra points for not caring (since you know most here are dead against foam and eggcrates) what anybody else thinks

In the end the song is really all it's about, you can do a zillion different things, many of which many people would say are wrong, but if the song is happening, it's all ok.

It's true that a lot of people are against the whole eggcrate foam thing, but I'll be honest - I've used it in a pinch with surprisingly good results. Look, any type of surface with absorptive properties is going to be better than 4 parallel, untreated, hard surfaces.

If you've got it lying around and you need some quick treatment, the eggcrates are probably going to be better than nothing.

The reason why some people are dead-set against the idea of eggcrates is because of the inconsistent noise reduction coefficients across the frequency spectrum. Because of this, your recordings could potentially end up with problem frequencies (too much of some, not enough of others). But ultimately, if sounds good to you, awesome!


Rick

Yes the egg crates do work for what they were intended. I am not really concerned with the aethetics or technical aspect of it.

I'm really not saying that my home made quick fix is working anywhere as well as a properly set up room/booth. Im saying that when its what you have laying around and in a pinch it works better than nothing. I'm standing here hearing the difference, even if it is just a slight dampening of echos, or just acting as a gobo between me and my family in the other room as I record......

Its working for me right now.

EGG CARTONS yet again..............sigh!:(

Alan

The subject of egg cartons invokes surprizing passions but what I find confusing is that there are obviously times when something noticeable happens. Greg says he heard a noticeable difference and even if it only happened once, he reckons it happened. Who's going to flame him ? The point being that we often advise or are advised "trust your ears", even over science sometimes. Because science is not infallible. Of course we ain't either, I understand that. If someone says "I heard a difference", did they or didn't they ? If someone else says "It makes no difference at all", is that fact that has been accepted as such and therefore that person doesn't listen with critical ears to see if they can hear any, even if minor, difference ?
Where I stand on the issue is that I haven't got a clue, that's me, Santa Clueless :confused: . I find the debate fascinating and long into the decade may it continue. It's getting to be like religious and political debates !

but I wouldn't use egg cartons, I just thought i'd hold on to some and put them on the walls of my wardrobe and see what it sounded like, obviously I wouldn't literally build and entire studio with egg carton walls, and toilet paper tube microphones and bits of trees for guitars

Funnilly enough, if you put a toilet roll centrepiece over a mic, you can get a neat 'tubular' quality to what you record ! And isn't a guitar just a bit of tree anyway.....? :eek:
 
Greg says he heard a noticeable difference and even if it only happened once, he reckons it happened.

I don't reckon it happened, it did happen. I heard the difference. I questioned it though and I'm still not 100% sure the dude was being totally up front about eggshell foam being the only difference in the room.
 
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