Are the New Behringer Valve Microphones Any Good??

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Hi I like the look of these new microphones and have been impressed with the quality of the xm8500 sm58 rip off... Wants a nice mic that stood out for my recording setup I'm buying, getting two low cost condensers but want one that is different and bit more expensive thought the behringer ones could fit the bill any thoughts?
 
This is the model I'm interested in..

I really like the way this mic looks for wow factor.. (Red light is a bit cheesy)

t-47 LINK


But there is the T-1 too which is slightly more expensive...

t-1 LINK
 
Its really more about what is on the inside that give it quality...not what it looks like on the outside.

Behringer in the signal chain isnt highly reccomended arround here.
 
Hey hey hey... That's a very broad statement... I have used a behringer desk for years and had no complaints, no sound colouration from desk very neutral. And the xm8500 dynamic vocal mic? Google it it cost like £15 and sounds great! I have used them along side sm58's for years no complaints! They are great mics, good for instruments recording and live. Does everybody on this site hate behringer or something I thought as it is about home recording it would be a popular brand? i know some of there build quality is questionable but there are some really great products in there too whatever the price...
Yeah I know its not about looks I go for quality of sound over all but I want something that looks impressive and sounds impressive to draw away from the fact that all my other mics look so bad! lol!
 
Its really more about what is on the inside that give it quality...not what it looks like on the outside.

Behringer in the signal chain isnt highly reccomended arround here.

Darrin, the more I read your posts every time Behringer is mentioned on this forum the more I think that you have convinced yourself that everything they make is no good without even trying it out. What have you tried out? Have you made up your mind it is all crap?

Some Behringer gear is a bit average, some of it is amazing for the price. And some of it I use all the time because I like it and it sounds fine. The value for money can't be beaten for people trying to set up home studios, so what if I buy a mixer for $100 (I use one on a small live PA rig and another as a sub mixer for a sequencer rig) and in 2 years it stops working, (which has not happened), I would just go out and buy another one.

I am keen to hear reports on these mics.

Cheers

Alan.
 
Have you made up your mind it is all crap?

Yes...Ill never suggest anyone here buy a Behringer anything period...even if you did buy a mixer or microphone that isnt complete crap you are stuck with it for life since you are never going to find anyone to buy it...you can buy quality or buy twice, its your choice...but are you really saving any money buying the worst quality equipment.:rolleyes:
 
Yes...Ill never suggest anyone here buy a Behringer anything period...even if you did buy a mixer or microphone that isnt complete crap you are stuck with it for life since you are never going to find anyone to buy it...you can buy quality or buy twice, its your choice...but are you really saving any money buying the worst quality equipment.:rolleyes:

And what have you tried out? I thread started with Disease8 asking if anyone had tried them.
 
I learned early on with one of thier POS mixers...Im sure eveyone that has been at this for any amount of time has some bad experience with Behringer stuff...as long as it isnt in the signal path its OK...like they have a decent Headphone amp and thier control interfaces dont add any noises.
 
I learned early on with one of thier POS mixers...Im sure eveyone that has been at this for any amount of time has some bad experience with Behringer stuff...as long as it isnt in the signal path its OK...like they have a decent Headphone amp and thier control interfaces dont add any noises.

So you had a bad early model mixer and now everything is rubbish? OK on your recommendation I will throw out all my Behringer gear and never buy any of their stuff ever again. Hahaha If we all followed this train of thought, no one would ever buy anything as there would be someone somewhere who has had a problem with almost every brand of anything ever built.
 
Not every brand...Just Behringer and most of the chinese junk out there...a Newb should be able to surf here without getting pushed into sub quality stuff...I wish I had run into a guy like me while I was a newb...there are plenty of affordable Shure...AKG...AT...etc mics without haveing to buy thier cheap lines...If You cant afford what the pro's actually use you can buy used on EBAY or Craigslist, or your local pawn shop...you dont have to settle for chinese...theres quality stuff if you look for it.
 
The point is was trying to make example: Say Ford or GM make 1 dud model car is every model car they make dud?

I am just saying that Behringer make some good gear for the price that it is sold for.
 
Yo Disease! I don't think you are going to get a lot of info here on T-47. I can't find a single U.S. distributor that handles it. I can't even find out what it costs in U.S. dollars. This most likely means that it is a new product that hasn't been released in the U.S. It may be that some European, Australian, or Canadian board member will know something. I'm a moderate on this Behringer thing. I own a number of pieces of Behringer gear, and I, too, am impressed by XM8500. If you are looking for a tube (valve) mic, and you are based in England, my best recommendation would be Rode NTK, but I am betting it would cost more than the Behringer. It's made in Australia, so the tariff situation is better than most U.S. or continental products.
All that we can tell by looking at the PDF is that it is a typical valve mic, and if it follows the Behringer pattern, it is most likely a copy of someone else's mic. Whether it is a good copy or a bad one, only time will tell. Behringer makes some very good copies of other people's gear, and some very bad ones. I think Darrin is wrong, but he's only partly wrong.-Richie
 
The point is was trying to make example: Say Ford or GM make 1 dud model car is every model car they make dud?

I am just saying that Behringer make some good gear for the price that it is sold for.

Behringer has a very high Dud rate...say 50% of the time.

The best thing I can tell you to do is go to a site like Musiciansfriend.com and look at an item...click on the USED Gear tab and look at the number of returned units and the reasons why...some sites even have review sections so people can talk about if they reccommend the thing...but that return thing will tell you the truth about any item.
 
Lol!

Yo Disease! I don't think you are going to get a lot of info here on T-47. I can't find a single U.S. distributor that handles it. I can't even find out what it costs in U.S. dollars. This most likely means that it is a new product that hasn't been released in the U.S. It may be that some European, Australian, or Canadian board member will know something. I'm a moderate on this Behringer thing. I own a number of pieces of Behringer gear, and I, too, am impressed by XM8500. If you are looking for a tube (valve) mic, and you are based in England, my best recommendation would be Rode NTK, but I am betting it would cost more than the Behringer. It's made in Australia, so the tariff situation is better than most U.S. or continental products.
All that we can tell by looking at the PDF is that it is a typical valve mic, and if it follows the Behringer pattern, it is most likely a copy of someone else's mic. Whether it is a good copy or a bad one, only time will tell. Behringer makes some very good copies of other people's gear, and some very bad ones. I think Darrin is wrong, but he's only partly wrong.-Richie


Thank you Richard! Yes the Rode are a great bunch of mics but I really want to steer away from popular mics because you hear and see them everywhere and I get bored of the same style. I now they sound great but I want to have something exotic and different about my mic selection. I think I will go for something like thislooks good and sounds good (I Hope lol).. if it doesn't I will just change within the 30 day guarantee...
Its funny when people get so defensive over some great gear that is cheap and good. I agree the old behringer stuff was worse. You are only as good as your last product and the new behringer mixers and mics are great!!! I have had my mixer for 4 years and it is fine! Used it for recording and live and I actually prefer it to the Mackie desk it is ripping off!! The mute lights are a god send in dark environments and the routing is the best I've seeen on a small mixer of its class (2442fx, 10 mic pre's, 2 stereo).. I have heard from an other member of this great forum that the T-47 is very natural and a great sounding mic... I have decided not to buy it though because people have already made their minds up about that brand (unfortunately). And good for you witzendoz!! Stand up for the TRUTH! It is something that people are going to have to accept. You can go out and buy a mic for $20 that stands up against an SM58 with ease and sometimes can be a better mic (great on guitar amps)! I think Shure have been rippin every one off for years and now they will get shown for the capitalists they are! Lol (they are really tough mics i can see where some of the money goes)... Thanks fr your responses good to hear from both sides...
Dom
 
Darrin_h2000?

Behringer dont have a 50% dud rate why are you making this stuff up? i got a few behringer things and none were duds.. you mean recently because they have starting making everything in there own factories?
 
Behringer dont have a 50% dud rate why are you making this stuff up? i got a few behringer things and none were duds.. you mean recently because they have starting making everything in there own factories?

Well did you look it up and see the numbers?...if you are such a smart guy why even come here and ask question if you allready obviously know all the answers...I am past caring that as a newb that you are going to spend thousands on bottom feeder gear before you even find out what a real microphone is supposed to sound like...go ahead and learn from you own mistakes because if you are not willing to listen you deserve what you get:rolleyes:
 
I have heard from an other member of this great forum that the T-47 is very natural and a great sounding mic... ...
Dom

Tell the truth...he complained about some hiss...but more likely it was from his Behringer preamp...Id stay clear of the t-bone products too...it might look sexy on the outside but still it is a POS on the inside...do yourelf a favor and take your money to the Ebay and find something good for arround the same money...stick with the tried and true stuff and dont be that guy who is here this time next year warning folks to stay away from the chinese junk.
 
Why get so wierd?

Hey man you are not being cool. So you are saying anybody that says some behringer stuff is good is a newb?
I have worked professionally for years and used Shure, Akg and even higher end gear so how can I not know wht a good mic sounds like? You are just showing yourself up shooting off your unfounded opinions and obvious lack of experience with new lower end microphones Shure and Akg make there stuff in China anyway. Check out the reviews on Sound on Sound magazine of Behringer gear and the T.bone mics. Maybe even consider trying some of these mics out before you tell us they are not good anywhere in the signal path?
The other advice I have been given on this forum completely contradicts yours, your saying everyone is wrong? Please be open minded sometimes other people are telling you things because its true? People don't always make things up you know we are not all trying to be cool I just want a good mic that looks good and isn't a major label because I don't want a predictable typical sound like a Rode or Shure. I really did appreciate your advice man until that last message where you are just being rude and arrogant and calling me and others "newbs".

"One finger points forward, three point back"

Think carefully before you point a finger.
Thanks for your thoughts,
Dom
 
OK, Disease. Actually, Darrin has quite a bit of experience. Is he rude? Not really. There are some really rude people around here, and he's not one of them. If you want to learn anything around here (and there are some people around here who have forgotten more about recording than I will ever know), you need to lighten up a bit. Darrin is expressing his opinion, and it is not without merit. As I read what he is saying (and it isn't the first time he's expressed this opinion), he's saying that the Chinese don't just save money by paying their labor shit, but they also do it by cutting corners on components, build quality, quality control, and customer service. He's quite aware that AKG Perception series mics are made in China, and he would most likely advise anyone not to buy them. Shure mics are not made in China, for the record. They are made in the USA, except the cheapest ones, which are made in Mexico, and the quality control is done in the USA.
That's the part where I think Darrin is right. I can also tell you that when a piece of Behringer gear breaks, they are pretty useless on customer service. I find your statement about how you would rather get a piece of gear that is different from the mainstream, rather than the proven stuff that the other studios use to be flat confused. Personally, I own only one Chinese mic, and I don't use it, because I have better mics, made in the USA, Austria, Germany, Australia, Russia, and Latvia.. I do own several pieces of Behringer gear, and I guarantee it was all made in China. None of it is my front-line studio gear, it's mostly backup gear or just toys where I didn't want to shell out the big bucks.
Darrin is expressing an opinion which I share in many ways. No one can tell you what mics will sound good to you and get your job done. All we can do is recommend respected pieces of gear that are used in studios, including ours. That way, it is easier to re-sell if it doesn't work out for you, and because quality control is better, you don't have to worry about whether you got the one that sucks. I agree with you that Darrin's sweeping rejection of Behringer gear is not based on a comprehensive, piece-by-piece, examination of their gear, and is sometimes a little over the top. However, it *is* based on experience, his and others. And he's a long way from the biggest Behringer hater on this board, he's just the one that will take the time to actually tell you what he thinks, and take the time to type it.
In this case, although I'm not as black and white about it, my actions are the same. I wouldn't spend my money on a reverse engineered Chinese copy of a real valve mic, whether it be Behringer, T-Bone, Nady, or anything else. I'd probably get an Audio-Technica AT4060, Rode NTK or K-2, and start saving up for a Lawson or a Brauner. Behringer gear isn't dirt cheap because they love you, and all those mean German engineers are price gouging you, and a Kia isn't a less expensive version of a Mercedes-Benz. And- all of that doesn't even address the fact that the profits from that Chinese mic don't go to feed the guy (kid) who made it. They go to pay for the nuclear-tipped missiles that are pointed at *you*. That's a whole different issue.
You two just got off on the wrong foot, because your attitudes rubbed each other the wrong way. Stick around, and you'll find that Darrin has some positive contributions to make. You will also have to accept that he is *never* going to advise anyone to buy a piece of Behringer gear, because he doesn't believe it's a good investment of your money.
Like I said, I'm a moderate. If I am going to buy a piece of Behringer gear, I'm going to check out its track record, and if I can afford it, I'll probably get the real thing of which it is a cheap copy.-Richie
 
Hey man you are not being cool. So you are saying anybody that says some behringer stuff is good is a newb?
I have worked professionally for years and used Shure, Akg and even higher end gear so how can I not know wht a good mic sounds like? You are just showing yourself up shooting off your unfounded opinions and obvious lack of experience with new lower end microphones Shure and Akg make there stuff in China anyway. Check out the reviews on Sound on Sound magazine of Behringer gear and the T.bone mics. Maybe even consider trying some of these mics out before you tell us they are not good anywhere in the signal path?
The other advice I have been given on this forum completely contradicts yours, your saying everyone is wrong? Please be open minded sometimes other people are telling you things because its true? People don't always make things up you know we are not all trying to be cool I just want a good mic that looks good and isn't a major label because I don't want a predictable typical sound like a Rode or Shure. I really did appreciate your advice man until that last message where you are just being rude and arrogant and calling me and others "newbs".

"One finger points forward, three point back"

Think carefully before you point a finger.
Thanks for your thoughts,
Dom
My approach here is to keep you from making the same mistakes others have made in the past...there are a few sE mics that might be pretty good...but you have to pay for them and you might as well be buying a top end Shure or an AT mic...if you want it to look sexy you might try a Blue...but they all seem to be one trick pony's so you have to buy a few to be covered.

Usually when it comes down to it if you buy Chinese...you get what you pay for...very few companies will give you any resale value at all...and you end up with something unuseable and you are stuck with it.

We do have it pretty good right now...the KSM line and the 40 series are rating just as good with the neumaans with engineers that can have anything. Ebay gives you a shot at buying those mics inexpensively...especially in this economy.
 
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