Yeah mutt I won't quit trying. I was telling a friend at work about it today. There's a remote radio tower with a small office/equipment room next to his house. He watches the place for the owner so the guy told him he had some old equipment in a room he was welcome to. He told me there's a couple of old stereo reel to reels in there if I want them. Sure would be nice if it was an Otari or Tascam or hell who cares? It's free! I'll be going over there tomorrow to check them out. Ya never know.