Don't you think he'll figure it out once he starts hearing a click in his headphones?USE A CLICK! Practice with it as a whole group and when you hit record ,dont tell the drummer.
Don't you think he'll figure it out once he starts hearing a click in his headphones?
Could it be because our drummer doesn't get to practice much, as his kit is in our studio, and as a band we haven't rehearsed for a while?
Dave
Having just skimmed thru these replies and listening to the recording my opinion is, USE A CLICK! Practice with it as a whole group and when you hit record ,dont tell the drummer.
Should you be recording an EP at this stage when you admit the drummer doesn't practice and you don't rehearse as a band ? Bear in mind that any permanent recording needs to bear repeated listenings. Forever.My band are attempting to record out ep, and to me the drums just seem so sloppy, the main culprit being the kick drum !
Is your drummer somewhat thick skinned or overly sensitive ? How did he react to having to do the drums again ? Have you discuussed your dissatisfaction with him ? What was his stance ?This is our 2nd attempt of tracking the drums and they still seem shit to me
This is the golden example of a question that contains it's own reply.Could it be because our drummer doesn't get to practice much, as his kit is in our studio, and as a band we haven't rehearsed for a while?
Or could there be some other reason for it?
You can be helped the 'studio wizardry' way or simply correct thisPlease help
The first way will simply lead you to your opening post.our drummer doesn't get to practice much, as his kit is in our studio, and as a band we haven't rehearsed for a while?
Believe me, I use all that time stretching, quantizing stuff. But to tell a person who is [I assume] relatively new to recording drums to start slicing, dicing and stretching drums is not the solution to his problem. He'll be a in a world of hurt when his drummer realizes his inadequacies can be fixed by studio trickery because said drummer will become lazy and request the process every time. I'm looking at the long term.
Another problem is when the rest of the kit is being played in relatively good time compared to the kick, like in this example. It's one thing for the entire groove to be late but when it's just the kick, you're going to end up chasing your tail and there's going to be a trade-off somewhere. Ever try to fix a four-to-the-floor groove when the kick and snare are flamming? Not very easy and often it's not possible. This is a similar situation.
Cheers
Don't you think he'll figure it out once he starts hearing a click in his headphones?
He's gonna hear the click while practicing but he doesnt need to know when your recording ya know?
He admitted there were a few mistakes, but nothing that major,and that he thought the takes were actually okay! (but i'd beg to differ)
And on the message refering to the bass, that was just a guide track, guitar and bass were mixed down to one track!
Well then, be the guy to tell him and do it reasonably, politely and helpfully.From what I've heard there, by now, what your band needs to do should be pretty obvious to you, but I don't want to be the guy to tell you and be rude.
witzendoz, no stress dude. I wasn't saying you were saying anything. Just giving my thoughts.
I agree with you so we're on the same page.
Cheers
You know 30 years ago if you guys were in the studio the engineer would either get you piss drunk and do it himself or hire a studio guy or be blunt and tell the drummer that he wasn't up for the task.
But now we have tools to fix a sloppy take, and it always seems to be at the expense of someones ego.
You know that if people practiced for as much time that is taken to edit and fix crap playing they would become better players.
Alan.
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