I think it sounds great man. All of the vocals (lead and background) sound good to me, in this setting they're right where they need to be. Nice frequency balance of everything, its got a full low end and plenty of density above that. Drums sound nice, although that snare is a little suspect. Much improved from the last mix though!
Excellent, thanks for listening tadpui and I'm glad the new mix is an improvement. I'd hoped it was, but had probably reached the point where I couldn't really tell for sure whether it sounded that different any more. What's your issue with the snare btw? Is it the tone, sample quality or the pattern that's I'm a fan of Four Tet's stuff, especially his drum sounds around the Rounds/Pause era records and I think I reached for that kind of sound if you're familiar? I think I'm probably at the limits of what I can currently do with drums, but if it's just something with how it's sitting in the mix, I might be able to take another look.
Yup, sounds done to me. Nice job on this.
I still liked the original, heavier beat best myself, but this works. This last mix does have more depth to it, which is good. Plenty of sounds coming and going across the spectrum.
I don't know how you can totally change beats like you did though? You laid the foundation over one beat, and then changed it several times I think? Did any of the tracks that were played over the original beat stay in this final version? I would think changing the beat would require re-tracking everything that had been done on top of it? Just curious. I had wanted to ask that before...there was one drum part in the middle somewhere that you tried that really didn't fit I thought, and this one is better, but the first was the best!
Ace, thanks Pete. I was definitely after more depth with the update, so that's good to hear. I think your parts are actually more prominent this time round too, and they contributed to that. I can get nice warm tube tones, but am not so hot on more overdriven sounds - your parts
were more overdriven and so contrasted well.
Regarding changing the beats, it's something I do quite a lot on mixes until I get them to the point I want them. When I want to change it round, I just tend to strip it back to the click track (or if I'm happy with the kick then back to that) and rebuild again from there. I
think the overheads on the second part of the song might have stayed the same throughout, but I can't say for sure. As long as it's recorded to a click, I find that I can change the beat around without having to re-track everything around it
The very first beat pattern you heard had some crazy timings in it, to try and match the crazy timings of everything else on the scratch demo. I couldn't get it all to pull together with that particular beat once I re-tracked properly, so had to change things around. I don't have much in the way of a set process when writing/recording stuff, so everything tends to just keep on changing around until I eventually stumble upon the right combination...
I think the organ came through better on the first one. Your redid the vocal, right? It sounds better, anyway. I think you could easily bring the spoken vocal level up. And why pan it? It's a bit of a star and deserves center stage. But whatever. Or you could clone it, pan it left, and delay the right one a second. You can tell I've been drinking lol.
What a cool song. I really like it.
Thanks for coming back in, drinking or no drinking dobro. Glad you liked it. With the organ, I notched out a boomy frequency (which I guess equates to a volume cut), but that's the only significant change I made there. It was more prominent in mix one, but I think that setting it back a little more allows other parts to come through more and provide more interest. Re. the vocal, I didn't redo in the end, I just scrapped one of the vocal lines that was out of whack, and tidied up the timings. I've got a latency issue with my tracking currently, so it's more art than science working out where to place audio files.
And re. the spoken word section - I guess I went a bit crazy on the panning with this tune. With having a lot going on I was a bit conscious of putting much dead centre where it might smother the dynamics. I'll play around again and see how it sits dead centre. Thanks again man
