Thanks for all the great advice
Hi all, thanks for all the great advice - I slept from 1700 to 2230 earlier now its 03:16 thurs morning and can't sleep lol...Oh well...
sounds to me like you are trying to eq a cheap mic into a good mic. This doesn't generally work and just creates a very fatiguing high end. If you are going to use a cheap microphone, it's better to recognize the limitations and work with them than to try to make it sound like something that it isn't.
In other words, I think you have too much eq on the vocals, and a lot of the instruments as well.
Bozmillar - you'd be absolutely correct in your thinking. What would those limitations of working with a cheap mic be? How should I successfully work with it and prevent a fatiguing high end sound?
So is the vocal eq lending to too bright a sound? Too harsh? Not warm enough? WIll have another crack when I've slept properly ;-)
still through when the voice is by itself it sounds kind of like a kazoo. sorry to sound like a broken record but my first instincts say to try a different mic and make sure that the space you are recording in isn't screwing things up too much as well as adjusting the placement withing that space
LOL second skin...like a kazoo; that really aptly sums it up I think...Damn I wish I could sing better...The mic I used is the only one I have. Its a budget dynamic one, cost 30 quid around 10 or so years ago. Perhaps its time for me to buy a new one!
I've just had another listen and it's better, but still sounds odd to me. The vocals seem like they're singing to a different song in a strange sort of way. Difficult to pinpoint the real culprit, but maybe your voice really is suited to other styles.
Thanks dreamer7....I know they do sure sound odd, I think its just because I'm a crap singer and its difficult for me to put any expression in to what I'm singing without the pitch messing up (hence the use of autotune plugin). Its v difficult for me to sing consistently a single note...I need to practice I think ;-)
The music's very good and it isn't that you've got a bad voice, but it just feels like it needs to be lower, more rounded, or warmer somehow. How you achieve that with your current equipment is the real question. There are others here who should be able to help you more than me, with the technical side of things.
Hope you find the answer,
Thanks again...I will look into it. Basically I am learning Logic as I record this. I also use Izotope Ozone to add some shine to the overall mix (during mix down) and did experiment using it with the vocals a little but to no avail. Also, there is a lot of hiss on the vocal track...again a sign of using shit preamp and bad mic. I did have to use a noise gate fairly extensively and you can hear the effect in the first verse (can't remember exactly where)....
The vocal isn't bad and it strikes me as an effect. If you can get the mix to spread out a little bit frequency wise I think it works fine.
Solve what you perceive to be a problem, by all means. But I vote to leave the vocal on this one alone.
Thanks supercreep - think I will experiment with it a little. But when you say the vocal is an effect? LOL, when I write a piece of software and it performs badly I might call it 'feature' of the system. Is that what you mean?
Thanks!
Ben.