fat_fleet
Swollen Member
Oh, you're wrong, my friend. RAMI makes the rules. This tune is 4/4.
Lay off the crack.
Oh, you're wrong, my friend. RAMI makes the rules. This tune is 4/4.
So for those of you out there who can read music (I'm obviously not one of those), it's all about where the accent falls, correct? So is the accent always on the one? in this instance 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 - would this be an instance of 6/8 time? and this
1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 1 2 3 - be 3/4 time or 12/8 time? This is not a facetious question - I'm really trying to understand this whole counting thing.
Hey Nola,
I don't hear/see the confusion at 3:17. The tempo and meter don't change.
There's not even triplets or syncopation. It's literally just 4/4 as before with a new strum pattern.
Hey Nola,
I don't hear/see the confusion at 3:17. The tempo and meter don't change.
There's not even triplets or syncopation. It's literally just 4/4 as before with a new strum pattern.
You're right that there's no new tempo or meter, but there is a strong syncopation actually. He's heavily accenting the "and" of beat 3 in every other measure, which is what I think may be throwing Nola off.
Holy crap that tune speeds up big time from the beginning.
Hm, I don't know that's just how I hear it for some reason. It doesn't sound or feel like straight 4/4 to me
How do you count the accents?
There's an offbeat accent in there, sure. If that's technically syncopation then fair enough, but I don't hear that as being any way complicated.
It would be:
1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and
1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and
1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and
1 and 2 and 3 and 4 and
I agree it's not complicated, but if you're not used to counting music, then maybe it would throw off some people.
Thanks, Beagle, that's close to what I tabbed in the drum machine.
I did 1 2 (3) a 4 &
I thought the 3 beat was on an "a" of a 16th note strum not the &. It feels like a longer delay.
I wasn't sure about it being triplets...I only mentioned that part b/c last night when trying to tab it it seemed to gel more with the metronome on triplets, but maybe I just subconsciously adjusted my strum to the metronome.
Cool ... yeah sometimes a song can play with your head for some reason.
One that still to this day does for me is Beethoven's "Fur Elise." For the life of me, I never want to hear those first two notes (E-D#) as pickup notes, even though I know the song is in 3/8. The first eight-note phrase (E-D#-E-D#-E-B-D-C) always sounds like 2/4 to me. And then it clearly goes into 3/8 with the ascending arpeggios. But when it gets back to that phrase again, it sounds like a bar of 2/4.
Yeah exactly! I have other songs that I just don't hear the way sheet music says. I wonder if we all have innate feel and sometimes it just gets thrown off. Or I just stink and need more practice at tapping these...
Oh, and I meant 1 2 (3) e 4 & is how I tabbed it.
You don't think the strum on the 3 beat is a little late? It feels like a lag there like it's on the "e" instead of right on the 3. At the 3:26 bar that seems really noticeable to me. Am I hearing that wrong?
Can we start a thread dedicated to figuring out time signatures of songs and discussing how to chop up beats? That would be so awesome.
I wouldn't mind, but last time that almost happened, people were coming in with their "It depends on the rest of the tune", "You need context", and "You can't just set a metronome and count to figure out a time signature". All 3 of those statements are 100% false. You don't need to hear the rest of anything, you don't need "context", and you DO need to simply put on a metronome (or tap your foot) and count. It's really that simple.Can we start a thread dedicated to figuring out time signatures of songs and discussing how to chop up beats? That would be so awesome.
I wouldn't mind, but last time that almost happened, people were coming in with their "It depends on the rest of the tune", "You need context", and "You can't just set a metronome and count to figure out a time signature". All 3 of those statements are 100% false. You don't need to hear the rest of anything, you don't need "context", and you DO need to simply put on a metronome (or tap your foot) and count. It's really that simple.
I can see a thread like that ending up confusing more people than helping only because there will be too many people trying to over-complicate things due to their lack of comprehension as far as how simple it is to figure out a time signature.