Wow.
And you talk about super ego guitarist?
A recordists job is to serve, not to dwell in his own greatness.
And given I was the guitarist, I would not give a flying fuck about what you think I should sound like.
That's the musicians and/or producers call.
Sound recording engineers of decades standing and experience should have got that down.
It can go both ways. Some people really have shit tone and need to be told so.
If it were me, I'd tell you to go fuck yourself and track right next to my amp at 1 billion decibels.
Some people really have shit tone and need to be told so.
See....that's what the producer is there for.
Oh I'm sure he does....but I bet even the engineer would let the producer tell the guitar player that his tone sucks.
I would like to point ouit that I didn't say thsiI think what Jay is trying to say is that a sound recording engineer of decades standing and experience is far more likely to get a good guitar sound than some 10% deaf already, wet behind the ears guitar super ego!
Dave.
Again, I didn't say that.Wow.
And you talk about super ego guitarist?
A recordists job is to serve, not to dwell in his own greatness.
And given I was the guitarist, I would not give a flying fuck about what you think I should sound like.
That's the musicians and/or producers call.
Sound recording engineers of decades standing and experience should have got that down.
I really don't agree that I'm simply there to serve. I'm not a butler. I'm also the first guy that's going to be blamed when it doesn't sound good, so I do need to help wrangle everyone's sound. I have done projects with people with your attitude and a shit tone, I've asked not to be credited.
I've found that if you sit down and explain to people what is going on and how everything needs to fit together, what you are doing and why, it is almost never a problem.Again....I get what you are saying, and the times I have worked with other people, I always inject myself into the production process, 'cuz like you said, if it's shit, they look at you like you did something wrong.
Being a musician myself, I feel that I CAN have an opinion about the guitars or the keys or the vocals, etc.
I just think (I'm sure you do this) it's necessary to approach criticizing the "shit tones" of others with a bit of tact when you're in the studio (unlike the interwebs )...
...and yeah, sometimes you have to coddle and stroke egos a bit to get there....which again, is what the producers are for!
It's not like it's against the rules or anything. It's somewhat counterproductive sometimes, but if that's what makes him comfortable... A comfortable player will have a better performance. A better performance with a shit sound will (mostly) come off better than a half-assed performance with an awesome tone.
I would like to point ouit that I didn't say thsi
Excellent guitarist tho he is, my son dislikes very loud sounds and gets "ear fatigue" very quickly.
Dave.
Ha, get rid of that Blackstar amp and get him a good one.
Cheeky sod! He is still in France atmo but he quite likes his HT-20 (but only the clean channel) running into a Greenback (the 55Hz one) . Also have a 15W "Dominator Clone" much modded by Dad in an attempt to get an AC 15isk tone.
I have bought him an ID Core 40 and it will be interesting to see his reaction! He plays mainly clubs and cafes over there so 40watts should be adequate. Mostly jazz as well.
Have you tried a Series One Greg? On another forum some guys said they were pretty good and they all thought that the amps were all valves!
Dave.
No I haven't.
I just googled them....
Are they not all-tube? The product descriptions say they have a layout of 12ax7 and EL34 or 6L6 tubes.
Interesting. I don't fully understand though. So is the front end like a solid-state preamp feeding the preamp tubes?Well, they ain't gonna call them HYBRIDS are they? ! Mesa don't!
Heh. Yes, EL34, 6L6, KT88, ECC83 and lone ECC82. But the front end is a very high headroom (higher than a valve in fact) fet opamp and the EQ and voicing is mostly solid state. There is a double triode for each channel, i.e one for clean, on for OD1 , one for OD2. The dynamic power control (no use to you Greg, even on the S1 200!) is of course all op amps and power MOSFETs.
Dave.
Errr? Sort of but!Interesting. I don't fully understand though. So is the front end like a solid-state preamp feeding the preamp tubes?
Errr? Sort of but!
Yes there is a 12dB front end VLNoise pre amp and that drives some level checking and voicing stuff. The signal is then shunted off to a triode for mangling or just a bit of "crunch". Back for more voicing/EQ/control. Back to triode, then on to ECC83+ECC82 balanced PI and very low impedance driver to the output valves.
It is, admittedly a very "scientific", engineer's approach to amp building, the company likes to have as much control of the signals as possible then let the punter let rip! ...Does not please everyone I know.
The company also puts at least as much effort into reliability as sound quality (one of my jobs was basically to test stuff to near destruction) and in that I am pretty sure they have succeeded?
Sorry for the spam!
Dave.