wide screams?

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photoresistor

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hey guys,

ive been trying to figure out how you can make screams really wide sounding (usually found in some forms of metal/'metalcore') but havent had any luck... any ideas? ive messed around with a phase plugin but i couldnt get it to sound good.

thanks!
 
the voxengo stereo touch is a very good sounding stereo-widening delay that i use for metal vocals specifically to get that wide sound. especially for gang vocals. heres a link.

http://www.voxengo.com/product/stereotouch/

also, you could try splitting it into two mono tracks and offsetting one by using a sample delay or do it manually so that they are out of phase with eachother, but pan them hard right/left so you get the stereo effect.
 
thanks for the input! i tried copying to a different track and offsetting it a little bit manually... wasn't fully happy with it but i'll mess around with it more. how would you do it with a sample delay?

thanks again!
 
photoresistor said:
thanks for the input! i tried copying to a different track and offsetting it a little bit manually... wasn't fully happy with it but i'll mess around with it more. how would you do it with a sample delay?

thanks again!
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i'd say just try out the plugin i linked earlier, it will sound a lot better than a manual delay.
 
photoresistor said:
hey guys,

ive been trying to figure out how you can make screams really wide sounding (usually found in some forms of metal/'metalcore') but havent had any luck... any ideas? ive messed around with a phase plugin but i couldnt get it to sound good.

thanks!
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Hey Dan!

You need a dualmultishift. If you look for Ford Van's post on how to do it manually, you can do it long hand. Eventides kill for that effect.

Your welcome to come check out how I do it.
 
surfmaster said:
the voxengo stereo touch is a very good sounding stereo-widening delay that i use for metal vocals specifically to get that wide sound. especially for gang vocals. heres a link.

http://www.voxengo.com/product/stereotouch/

also, you could try splitting it into two mono tracks and offsetting one by using a sample delay or do it manually so that they are out of phase with eachother, but pan them hard right/left so you get the stereo effect.
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what plugin do you use tp record gang bangs?
 
Wide screams.
Double track the sreams and pan full to each side.
EQ each scream a bit different to add more width and not make it sound too symetrical.

Eck
 
xfinsterx said:
Double track it.
Be militant about how tight he gets the takes.

Then pan them out respectively (sp?)

Heres an example of real double tracking being effective.

http://www.lightningmp3.com/live/file.php?fid=7843

Halfway through youll really hear it
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Totally different effect than what I was thinking, but nice! :D

Give me a few weeks and I will have some samples of what I was talking about when I think "Wide". ;)
 
I agree about the layering. When it comes to screams, the more the merrier, IMO. I'll sometimes use 3 good layers, with two heavily effected and hard panned and the main one in the middle. It keeps the screams both wide and full at the same time. Sometimes mixing a 4th layer of the low-pitched death-growl underneath the main screams can make it sound a bit more sinister. I'd rather achieve this width effect with multiple takes rather than using one take with some type of plugin effect.
 
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