I posted a thread in the recording techniques, but I'm specifically interested in getting answers from cubase users.
Originally, I did not allow punch ins for drum tracking. It feels unnatural, and if not done properly, it ends up being more work than doing it the right way; practicing your drums so that the parts come second nature. This is the advice I give all drummers that record with me. It doesn't always work though. My drummer just recorded with another band (who used protools) and described the tracking process as follows:
1) Record 3 full takes
2) Seperately record fills in case they weren't properly executed in the 3 takes
3) edit and put tracks together.
Now, I DO punch in b/c my drummer is a pain in the ass detail oriented guy who psychologically hears differences that no other human would hear. As a result, we basically record section by section, i.e., verse 1, chorus 1, verse 2, chorus 2, etc...
The good thing is that now I can pretty much punch in ANYWHERE. I do it as follows (example):
Record (always w/click so measures line up w/song) measures 2-19. If the chorus starts at measure 18, I'll set my punch in locator to measure 17, roll him back to about measure 13 or 14 and have him start playing along, when he gets to measure 17 it automatically punches him in while he records the next passage, and then create the edit. The edit is as follows: splice at measure 18, highlight measure 17, hit "x" for crossfade, and open the cross fade editor and set the curve to whatever I want. This creates a seamless cut. It's worked great.
But how does one accomplish what the guys did with the 3 takes and recording fills???
Originally, I did not allow punch ins for drum tracking. It feels unnatural, and if not done properly, it ends up being more work than doing it the right way; practicing your drums so that the parts come second nature. This is the advice I give all drummers that record with me. It doesn't always work though. My drummer just recorded with another band (who used protools) and described the tracking process as follows:
1) Record 3 full takes
2) Seperately record fills in case they weren't properly executed in the 3 takes
3) edit and put tracks together.
Now, I DO punch in b/c my drummer is a pain in the ass detail oriented guy who psychologically hears differences that no other human would hear. As a result, we basically record section by section, i.e., verse 1, chorus 1, verse 2, chorus 2, etc...
The good thing is that now I can pretty much punch in ANYWHERE. I do it as follows (example):
Record (always w/click so measures line up w/song) measures 2-19. If the chorus starts at measure 18, I'll set my punch in locator to measure 17, roll him back to about measure 13 or 14 and have him start playing along, when he gets to measure 17 it automatically punches him in while he records the next passage, and then create the edit. The edit is as follows: splice at measure 18, highlight measure 17, hit "x" for crossfade, and open the cross fade editor and set the curve to whatever I want. This creates a seamless cut. It's worked great.
But how does one accomplish what the guys did with the 3 takes and recording fills???
and then I go back and cut the bad parts out and use the part of the other take that works there. I haven't tried the crossfade thing yet but I'm sure that would give me a more seamless result. So far just doing it the other way, it is hard to tell where the slice is. I try to put it right before a down beat.
