miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Yeah...it's not always the same.
By itself, you often want a nice rich/thick tone...but in a mix you might dail things back and/or roll things off to get the right tone, even if alone it might not sound as good.
The New Tone Thread
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Yeah...it's not always the same.
By itself, you often want a nice rich/thick tone...but in a mix you might dail things back and/or roll things off to get the right tone, even if alone it might not sound as good.
Telegram Sam
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Hi Sonixx,
We're just looking at tone.
I think isolated tone tracks are the preference.
A point is made to try to be non-judgemental about skill, technique or style as well.
Mixes are still perfectly fine, I think a lot of tone depends on context.
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miroslav
Cosmic Cowboy
Telegram Sam
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To be fair, the original thread was started in the Cave by another member as a tribute to "Tone to Die For."
The first post waxed eloquent about Guitar Demi-God Mick Ronson who played for David Bowie in his early heyday.
It was old school tone for tone's sake, and it was presented in context.
The first post waxed eloquent about Guitar Demi-God Mick Ronson who played for David Bowie in his early heyday.
It was old school tone for tone's sake, and it was presented in context.
Sky Blue Lou
Well-known member
Thanks for that post, Sam. Mick was my first guitar hero. Les Paul Custom. Marshall Major. Don't get much better. That was the foundation for lots of stuff - mega-threads included. 
Telegram Sam
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Thanks for that post, Sam. Mick was my first guitar hero. Les Paul Custom. Marshall Major. Don't get much better. That was the foundation for lots of stuff - mega-threads included.
Of course, Lou!
You got me to buy my first Mick Ronson solo CD!
Telegram Sam
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lol, he was a great player too.
Now if we can just get the other Randy to post in our thread again.
Sky Blue Lou
Well-known member
That may be the best description of RR I've ever heard. Imagine where he would be now. Damn shame.
Telegram Sam
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I was thinking about Mick Ronson when I was screwing around last night.
I recorded it at the end of practice and I couldn't push the strings anymore,
so it's a tad flat.
My fingers hurt.
I recorded it at the end of practice and I couldn't push the strings anymore,
so it's a tad flat.
My fingers hurt.
PhilWilson
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Saying "A lot of amp sims demonstrate that playing the guitar with the guitar's volume turned down halfway results in clean notes, and pleasing distortion is introduced when the guitar is turned up full. This tone example demonstrates that a sensitive amp will also respond favorably based just on picking intensity."
is an upside-down way to say it. Amp sims behave like that because they are trying to simulate that characteristic of real amps! The way you said that makes it sound like amp sims invented that behavior and real amps can copy it
is an upside-down way to say it. Amp sims behave like that because they are trying to simulate that characteristic of real amps! The way you said that makes it sound like amp sims invented that behavior and real amps can copy it
Telegram Sam
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I think I was trying to say that a well executed modeler should be able to translate pick dynamics in similar fashion to a real tube amp.
Sorry if my original post was unclear.
Get your 10 posts and post up some tone.
Sorry if my original post was unclear.
Get your 10 posts and post up some tone.
ShanPeyton
Member
Hey tone thread.
So here is the original tone check:
Here is the revision:
And here is another one that i just made that i have sort of fallen in love with. I may end up using this one frequently weather anyone likes it or not. I just like it.
So here is the original tone check:
Here is the revision:
And here is another one that i just made that i have sort of fallen in love with. I may end up using this one frequently weather anyone likes it or not. I just like it.
I mean he even looked just like Ronson. I was watching that old Bowie concert with my lead guitarist who lives and breathes all things Randy Rhoads and he was pointing out every little move and facial expression that Ronson did that Randy later copied. It was funny.
antichef
pornk rock
Picked up an Orange VT100 (edit - TH100. shtt.) today to use for back-up now that I'm sort of gigging again. They didn't have an Orange 4x12, but they did have a used Marshall 1960B so I got that. The Orange sounds pretty good, but I'm still learning it.
What that also means is that for the first time since 1986 when I bought it, I can run my JCM800 (now out of the shop) as a full stack - the cabs aren't on top of one another but are a few feet apart side by side. HOLY SHIT!!! I think there's a little phasing going on, but it makes it sound better. Not sure how to record it - I guess I'd need at least one mic for each cab. If I use ribbons, I should be able to get the void pointed at the other cab.
What that also means is that for the first time since 1986 when I bought it, I can run my JCM800 (now out of the shop) as a full stack - the cabs aren't on top of one another but are a few feet apart side by side. HOLY SHIT!!! I think there's a little phasing going on, but it makes it sound better. Not sure how to record it - I guess I'd need at least one mic for each cab. If I use ribbons, I should be able to get the void pointed at the other cab.
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Telegram Sam
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Hi Shan,
I would like to hear what others think, but I'm with you, the third one is my favorite.
The first one is most easily heard to be a sim, the second is definitely an improvement,
it has more bite, I can hear the strings better. But the third has got a much more raw edge,
those are some pretty convincing downstrokes.
The Hiwatt is one my favorite sims in my modeler as well.
I'll try to post something up in a similar vein.
Pretty cool, thanks for posting it all up!
I would like to hear what others think, but I'm with you, the third one is my favorite.
The first one is most easily heard to be a sim, the second is definitely an improvement,
it has more bite, I can hear the strings better. But the third has got a much more raw edge,
those are some pretty convincing downstrokes.
The Hiwatt is one my favorite sims in my modeler as well.
I'll try to post something up in a similar vein.
Pretty cool, thanks for posting it all up!
Telegram Sam
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That's some funny shit, Greg.
Telegram Sam
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I don't know that one.
Got any links?
I am pretty intrigued by the Orange line of guitar amps.
rayc
retroreprobate
Ronson is a def ornament to those he worked with.
His playing & arranging for Bowie, ditto for Ian Hunter, were big parts of the SOUND that made them classics.
& his tone was pretty much based on the simplest combination of good stuff.
Pity his solo albums didn't have the same star quality - if DB & IH had sung on them, or provided good songs...
On the other hand they SOUND good.
Those compare & contrast videos certainly make a believer of sceptics BUT they're too fast, furious & with too many variations to really help with selection.
I'm still working on mic placement & preamp combos with regard to my Marshall.
I have a tone that is signature for my stuff (thin, jangly, single coil open chords, manic hamonics ), but I need a good meaty break up tone to play over/accentuate the riffs without burying the jangle so I'm stalking Greg's tone comments all over the site.
His playing & arranging for Bowie, ditto for Ian Hunter, were big parts of the SOUND that made them classics.
& his tone was pretty much based on the simplest combination of good stuff.
Pity his solo albums didn't have the same star quality - if DB & IH had sung on them, or provided good songs...
On the other hand they SOUND good.
Those compare & contrast videos certainly make a believer of sceptics BUT they're too fast, furious & with too many variations to really help with selection.
I'm still working on mic placement & preamp combos with regard to my Marshall.
I have a tone that is signature for my stuff (thin, jangly, single coil open chords, manic hamonics ), but I need a good meaty break up tone to play over/accentuate the riffs without burying the jangle so I'm stalking Greg's tone comments all over the site.