Dang !We can still talk. Jeff beck can’t do that anymore. Sadly he’s passed away.
Then perhaps you should post in another forum?I don't understand the people who want to use Tape - it's a major PIA to maintain, edit and record - and the sound isn't all that.
I wouldn't go back to recording on an 8-track cassette portastudio, let alone a 4-track one. But if it were the only option, I'd be in there like a shot. Heck, if sound-on-sound were the only option, I'd be in there like a shot !if digital were the only option, I would not record at all
I think AI will be decent but never amazing. It’s like why children can be prodigies at music. They just have amazing muscle memory along other things.Here’s something to consider.
Analog recording is keeping real music alive.
In this digital age people are losing real world musicianship skills.
Cut and paste comes to mind. Auto tune comes to mind.
Every technological advance comes at a price. How many people you know who’s handwriting skills have gone to shit because of typing on a touchscreen or a keyboard?
Yes technology is convenient, handy, and maybe even empowering. And it’s certainly addictive.
But with the addictive nature of it and the constant upgrading, when will enough be enough?
It’s only a matter of time before there’s serious AI commonplace in home studios.
A whole composition will be able to be done on the computer from start to finish without musicians even being needed.
Only need a good programmer. Or maybe not even that.
Just a thought.
Another thing to consider:Here’s something to consider.
Analog recording is keeping real music alive.
In this digital age people are losing real world musicianship skills.
Cut and paste comes to mind. Auto tune comes to mind.
Every technological advance comes at a price. How many people you know who’s handwriting skills have gone to shit because of typing on a touchscreen or a keyboard?
Yes technology is convenient, handy, and maybe even empowering. And it’s certainly addictive.
But with the addictive nature of it and the constant upgrading, when will enough be enough?
It’s only a matter of time before there’s serious AI commonplace in home studios.
A whole composition will be able to be done on the computer from start to finish without musicians even being needed.
Only need a good programmer. Or maybe not even that.
Just a thought.
It’s closer than you think. You’re still young, I’m pretty sure that long before you’re dead you’ll see the elimination of the songwriter.I think AI will be decent but never amazing. It’s like why children can be prodigies at music. They just have amazing muscle memory along other things.
But I’ve never seen a child prodigy writer. It takes life experience to be a good writer—something that children gain as they age.
AI is fantastic at certain things. Like extracting certain sounds from a song. But creation from nothing is not something I think will ever come to pass until after I’m dead.
I apologize for posting in this forum - I didn't realize it was the Tape forum.I have one request. And that is for people in the digital camp to refrain from ‘jumping borders’ into the analog forum telling us analog folk how shitty and inferior the analog method of recording is.
I personally use and endorse all forms of recording and have a hybrid set up.
No one that likes to use analog has ever gone into the digital sub forums to poo poo on digital recording (that I’m aware of)
I’m not trying to jump on you personally, your post just seemed appropriate to highlight what I feel is a larger issue.
People that frequent this forum are looking for pertinent information, assistance etc.
No one is here to be convinced this ‘antiquated’ medium is shit.
Please allow us analog farts to have our fun in this small sub forum.
Thank you .
I apologize for posting in this forum - I didn't know it was the tape forum.Perhaps you should actually try. Try to understand why different people like doing things and using things that you don't.
You are correct - I didn't realize I was posting in the Tape forum - my apologies to all of you for intruding,Then perhaps you should post in another forum?
Has Recycle gone ?The thing about Recycle is that when I looked at his other post on other threads, he seemed like he was giving decent, genuine answers. Then he became a massive troll.
Can you rephrase that in a complete question?Has Recycle gone ?
Yeh I’m not a big fan of cassette multi track at this point … but I would use them if that was all that existed. Digital, not so much. To me, it’s the difference between photoshop and oil paint and canvass. I understand this is a minority opinion, and mang simply see the medium as capture method for performance. I see it as making a record on totality. The final potential sound of the record is what guides me.I wouldn't go back to recording on an 8-track cassette portastudio, let alone a 4-track one. But if it were the only option, I'd be in there like a shot. Heck, if sound-on-sound were the only option, I'd be in there like a shot !
Well, I have a friend who’s super into fountain pens. And there are fountain pen communities. He can restore fountain pens, and they can be worth a significant amount of money.I've never thought about this forum area only being for people sold on analogue, but a place where we can (and do) talk about it. I can only speak for myself, but while I can record and replay in analogue - reel to reel and cassette, when a job roles in, I'd be foolish to risk old gear? I love playing with it, and it looks good too, but in work now, I have to risk assess almost every day - and the rules is always that you look for potential problems and reduce them. Pretty much I don't trust two computers, so I use two macbook pros, and have a system where if one fails, the other is a backup. I do not have two analogue multitracks. They need care, kindness and a light touch - I cannot put them in a flightcase and put them in the van. They don't like condensation, the media can get stretched, damaged, and the media actually contaminates the machine so you need constant cleaning etc etc. Analogue is really nice to own - not certain it would ever earn it's keep though?
RFR said:It’s only a matter of time before there’s serious AI commonplace in home studios.
A whole composition will be able to be done on the computer from start to finish without musicians even being needed.
Only need a good programmer. Or maybe not even that.
Just a thought.