Problems with Reamping

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jonrusso99

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I love the concept of reamping because I do not have a seperate control room and studio. So I like to record a dry signal straight in with a simulator for an appropriate sound. Then Crank up the amp and mic it. Unfortunately I get a ton of noise as soon as I run a line out of my Digi002 into the amp head (noise is there whether or not the track is muted).
Am I missing something in the signal chain between the 002 out and the Amp. Im guessing something to do with either impedence or maybe that the 002 has a +4 db output, but I really don't know. Suggestions?
 
The level and impedence of a guitar amp is WAY different than line level. Going into the recorder you'd need a direct box of some kind and coming out of the recorder you'd need a Reamp or something like it.
 
You can also use a passive DI box in reverse. Whirlwind or similar will do the job just fine. You also need to attenuate the signal -- you can go the hi-tech route for that or simply turn the volume down from your playback.

It's a little cheaper than buying a dedicated re-amping gizmo, and works just as well in most cases. Mileage does vary, however, when dealing with impedence-matching of any kind.
 
Thanks guys, reamp box it is!
On a related subject does anybody have any software preferences for guitar amps. Right now I'm leaning towards Amplitube cause I already have an old version and just need the upgrade. But is there anything that blows it away for a similar price?
 
jonrusso99,

the Radial MK3 is what I use for reamping... it's excellent!
http://www.frontendaudio.com/Radial JDI.htm

The manual explains exactly how to reamp.

You need an xlr female to female adapter.
You connect the track (from multitrack) into a mixer.

then connect from the xlr out of the mixer into the xlr "output" on the radial (using the female to female adapter).

Then you connect from the 1/4" "input" of the radial into your amp.

Then mic your amp... and go back into the multitrack or computer etc.

This may sound weird, but it is correct.... It was in the manual and I've been doing it....

It's really improved my recordings big time! I love it!
hope this helps,
evt
 
jonrusso99 said:
Thanks guys, reamp box it is!
On a related subject does anybody have any software preferences for guitar amps. Right now I'm leaning towards Amplitube cause I already have an old version and just need the upgrade. But is there anything that blows it away for a similar price?
Click to expand...

This one put Amplitube to sleep for me. It costs a little bit more, but it's well worth it.
http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?guitarrig_us
 
I never thought much about reamping, but lately its seemed sort of interesting to me...maybe something to use with a bass track, which I normally do DI with my SansAmp anyways, to add a little extra. I never considered trying a passive DI box in reverse though. From what I gather in this post, I should, theoretically, be able to take an output from my Layla card (balanced 1/4") and use a TRS male-to-XLR female cable (the one I usually use for plugging my SansAmp directly into the interface) to plug into the passive DI's XLR, and then run the DI's input connected to the input of my amp? Would that be correct? Also, I'm curious as to what you do to deal with the latency that will obviously show up. Do you just realign the tracks in your DAW software, or is there some other more sophisticated way of doing this? Any thoughts?
 
Hi Adam P,
I know reamping works with the the Radial MK3 ... which I have.
http://www.frontendaudio.com/Radial JDI.htm
The manual explains exactly how to reamp.

You need an xlr female to female adapter.
You connect the track (from multitrack) into a mixer.

then connect from the xlr out of the mixer into the xlr "output" on the radial (using the female to female adapter).

Then you connect from the 1/4" "input" of the radial into your amp.

Then mic your amp... and go back into the multitrack or computer etc.


I don't know if you can use "any" passive direct box. You would have to look into the one you are planning to use and find out.

When I reamp through the mk3, I mic up my blues jr. amp with an sm57 powered through a safesound p1. I haven't had trouble with latency. I am using a fostex vf16 as a multitrack. Reamping has worked great for me.


There is some info her about reamping. Although this radial is specifically stating that it is to be utilized for reamping, the Mk3 also has reamping capabilities.
http://www.stompin-ground.com/products/radial-xamp-hist.htm

I talk about reamping on this section of my website.
http://corrientesmusic.com/EVT_techniques.html

hope this helps,
evt
 
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