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Irk

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Basically what I want to know is Can I purchase A compressor and see/hear results with just getting the unit (200 or less) and could I simply hook it to my cheap little behringer mixer and cassette 4-track or digital 8-track? Just the unit with nothing else? Hear results? Waste of time? Don't talk down to me either just let me know what's up. Gracias, I
 
You sound like an asshole. You want an answer? then try givinh your thread a real name and quit acting like a little 12 year old idiot. Grow up dumbass or get off your mommy's computer.
 
From my mommy's computer to you.

Thank you kindly senior member sirnothingness. Is that name related to your genitalia. If you don't like the fucking heading leave it alone, you are'nt required to reply. You must be unhappy and have alot of time. If you believe that this site is here to educate and inform then you should act accordingly. What more can I say? I won't even waste a "go fuck yourself faggot" on you. I take it you can't answer my question. Thanks fucker! Anyone else?
 
Sorry IRK you almost ask for that. why did you title you thread.
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I have wondered about a using a compressor also but I would never think to ask the question about that with an opening line like pornislegalforminorsandillegalforfolks18&older

By trying different things I believe I can live without a compressor by just backing down the settings a bit and using the Master Limit setting on Kristal instead.

If you want respect treat others with respect
Like Kevin ask "Why do you want a compressor?" that was a good question and if you give us a good answer maybe we can help you in your quest.

My reason for wanting/thinking I needed one was my vocals were to hot "At times" it was almost like a gate would have worked better than a compressor, and somewhere down the road I may need to add one or both of those to my rack but for now if I just back things down a bit I think I can make it work.

What type of music are you recording? that may also help answer your questions.

Play nice and we will play with you. Act like an Ass and you can just take your ball and go home
 
Prancing_pony said:
My reason for wanting/thinking I needed one was my vocals were to hot "At times" it was almost like a gate would have worked better than a compressor, and somewhere down the road I may need to add one or both of those to my rack but for now if I just back things down a bit I think I can make it work.
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After reading your statement, it's basically why I have an outboard compressor. I have an RNC. I mainly use it with a small amount of compression, during tracking. I'm not much of a singer, and my mic technique is nonexistent, so it does help me tame some of the hotter signals, and keeps some of the softer ones a bit more normal. I sem to use more plug in compressors, as it's easier to mix that way, for me. I have very simple gear.
 
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I always hear of compression being such an addictive tool for so many people. There's so many documents of people over compressing. you know compressing EVERYTHING to tape(or whatever the medium may be) and then compressing the whole thing again after that. Basically, I guess it's a little hard for me to picture what ot is that compression does. I know there are millions of articles on the subject, and I understand that it brings quiter things up and louder things down. But I wanna hear what it's like. Why is it so addicting? Why is it so overly used. Why do experienced people wanna just use a dash of it? Would a novice like myself use one and fall so hard for it that I use tons of it on all things? If so, why? So are there any out there that could work for my setup that are affordable? Does anyone know of a place here on the internet to hear a "before and after" or a "with and without" example? Thx, I
 
Irk said:
Basically what I want to know is Can I purchase A compressor and see/hear results with just getting the unit (200 or less) and could I simply hook it to my cheap little behringer mixer and cassette 4-track or digital 8-track? Just the unit with nothing else? Hear results? Waste of time? Don't talk down to me either just let me know what's up. Gracias, I
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Yes, and maybe/yes, and yes, and yes, yes, and maybe.
 
i don't know about compressors being 'addictive'. if you're compressing everything then you're doing something wrong in the performances and in your micing & recording technique. sounds like someone's told you 'man, you have to get a compressor' and you're convinced.

the thing with compression is that you don't want to hear it. it's not some sort of special effect like flange or chorus or reverb. all it should do is make a performance sound consistent in terms of volume. it maintains some sort of ratio of loud:soft, though, which you can define. so loud parts still sound louder (but don't blow out) than soft parts (which don't vanish into the mix). if you use a compressor plugin, most have a GUI interface which 'shows' the compressor working, ie you can see the gain coming down when things get loud. maybe try one of those before buying one. the compressor should typically be the first effect in your chain, just after the preamp/gain. in my experience, they take a lot of tweaking to get them to work nicely.

compression is also used a lot during mastering, where you can compress frequency ranges (using multipressors) and keep the mix sounding good and solid. but that's something else.

(this, btw, was perhaps too long a reply to someone with such an aggressive online attitude)
 
I'm going to ignore the obvious bashing and get to the point.

A compressor, in it's basic use, does get the "heat" of of some tracks, and can be used for limiting (ie, when you're goign to tape, in order to prevent clipping).

But a compressor has thousands of uses. In fact, I'd almost say that compressors are the most used effect in a studio.
There are numerous articles on how to use compressors effectivley- I'll try and dig up a couple, but try www.soundonsound.com - i vaugely remeber them having a good intro teh the compressor.

You can do all sorts of things withproper compressor technique- you can add sustain to an instrument, or, conversly, "sharpen" an instrument up so that it stands out in the mix.
you can use light compression to minimise the level change caused by a vocalist moving to and from the mic, or you can use it to get a bit more warmth out of a piano.

It's really too vast a topic to cover in a single post, and, like most art, you'll find you get the best results when you play around a bit.

I suggest buying a compressor that has a couple of presets built in- I have a couple of Presonus Bluemaxes, and I love them to death. They have about 15 presets for different instruments, and, by listening to those, you can hear the difference that a compressor can make.

Finally, a bit of bashing (I can't help myself).

There are a lot of people here that are willing to help, if you want it. Sure, you might think it's funny to name a thread something stupid, but you can't then expect a serious answer.
Conversley, if people are titling threads in a stupid manner (well, not this stupidly, but you get me) or behaving immaturely, it's up to us to set the bounds, but not in a way that will scare off new users. Unless they really deserve it...

Really, what were you thinking Irk?
 
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So maybe my next question is NOT compressor related. If I'm working with a singer and to get the best performance out of them, they have to be LOUD for a certain song. Putting them close to the mic is too much, but putting them back from the mic makes it sound like they're in the background. Would compression do anything to this? Or what could/should be done? They say that contemporary pop music is always over-compressed. Why would they do that? Why is it more "candied" that way? Huh?
 
hahah, this guys pretty funny.

I dont see the point in compression units for vocals, I dont know whether you asked that question. But yeh, if its a fucked recordin, retake it, if you cant retake it, dont use it?
 
Irk said:
So maybe my next question is NOT compressor related. If I'm working with a singer and to get the best performance out of them, they have to be LOUD for a certain song. Putting them close to the mic is too much, but putting them back from the mic makes it sound like they're in the background. Would compression do anything to this? Or what could/should be done? They say that contemporary pop music is always over-compressed. Why would they do that? Why is it more "candied" that way? Huh?
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finding the right distance from the mic is usually the solver for the loud/soft issue...take the time and find it. Compression takes any sound and squishes it so that all the 'peaks and valleys' have been made lower and higher...it evens the sound you have. Whether or not you do this is up to you.

Who says Contemporary Pop music is 'over-compressed'. Badly recorded Pop can have compression issues, but ANY bad compression can make a mix suck. Pop music is often compressed well actually. I think what you mean is that Pop music often has been compressed a lot. That's not a bad thing....without compression it's unlikely any mix would be radio worthy... What do you mean by 'candied' anyway?

Jacob
 
Don't answer this stupid fucks question. Why on earth answer him? Make the stupid little twirp ask like a fucking human being instead of the way he did. You're only asking for more idiots to name their threads like that. This shit belongs in the cave.
 
Irk said:
I always hear of compression being such an addictive tool for so many people.
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Addictive? Tell me about it. I knew a guy that used compression so much he ended up blowing guys in dark alleys for crack. He also used to complain that if he didn't compress anything for an hour his blood itched.


Irk said:
I know there are millions of articles on the subject
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Sounds like you got some reading cut out for you...that is, if you're not too busy Gary Glittering your way around mom's pc.
 
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