PALMER or other speaker sim for LIVE playing
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If you want to run direct you would be better off using an amp simulator such as the Boss GT-8, Line6 Pod XTL, or Digitech GNX 3000. Only using a preamp and speaker simulator will not sound right. You need to simulate the interaction between : Preamp>Power Amp>Speaker.
Fireal402
Eyeballs! OH MY GOD EYES
Here's the deal with the Palmer Speaker Sim. It's designed to be used with an existing guitar amplifier, such as a Fender Twin, Mesa Recto, Marshall Lead, etc., and it takes the speaker cabinet and mic out of the picture.
It has a load attenuator to prevent the power amp of said guitar amplifier from blowing out whatever it's plugged into, and without a power amp you'd most likely have an extremely weak signal with a pretty poor sound.
BUT, Palmer makes a few variations on the standard speaker sim. They've got the standard PDI-3 (or the new PGA-04), which everyone is familiar with, and it's the one I've described above. They also have the PGA-05, which is lacking the attenuator, and is aimed at preamps. The PGA-04 is passive, meaning it's powered by the load from the power amp, and the PGA-05 is active, meaning it needs a wall-wart.
I hope this has helped you out, the Palmers are pretty cool devices.
It has a load attenuator to prevent the power amp of said guitar amplifier from blowing out whatever it's plugged into, and without a power amp you'd most likely have an extremely weak signal with a pretty poor sound.
BUT, Palmer makes a few variations on the standard speaker sim. They've got the standard PDI-3 (or the new PGA-04), which everyone is familiar with, and it's the one I've described above. They also have the PGA-05, which is lacking the attenuator, and is aimed at preamps. The PGA-04 is passive, meaning it's powered by the load from the power amp, and the PGA-05 is active, meaning it needs a wall-wart.
I hope this has helped you out, the Palmers are pretty cool devices.
the descripiton sounds cool!
Thaks a lot, everything clear!
I just had a practice with the band,with the In-ear monitoring.
I will ahve to get the ag of it, but the good things, that it brings to the overall sound....ITS ALMOST CRAZY!!!!!
So what i did id instead of plugging my marshall 6100 Balanced out to the mix des, i used my other thign which is rocktron Voodu Valve.
WIth speaker simulator, and i tried to bypass it.
The whole difference in the world!
Basicly some EQ difference, but very noticeable!
I still dont know what exactly to do, but if i will stick to not amping my guitar amp on stage, i shoudl really look at this as a whole new ball game!
BEcause i dont knwo what pre-amp, amp shoudl i use right now. I have tried zillion, but all throguh different poweramps, and cabinet.
I really liek the thought of not having a cabinet behind you on live sets.
I am a singer, and if i want to hear myself good when playing, my guitar shoudl really, be loud. Or cabinet shoudl be placed really good, which is not always possible!
I want the sound in my ears! And now i have foudn the way!
The only thign that i am still very concerned... HOw will the sound of my guitar, (not beign) miked, sound liek?
What will i lose? What will i gain?
Soundwise?
I mean, one thing is setting up thetone you like, when turning the knob on your amp, standing infront of it. Move away 3 meters and you would move that mid knob a bit to the 12 o'clock position...right?
THe thing is that we eve hear different than the mics hear!
Thaks a lot, everything clear!
I just had a practice with the band,with the In-ear monitoring.
I will ahve to get the ag of it, but the good things, that it brings to the overall sound....ITS ALMOST CRAZY!!!!!
So what i did id instead of plugging my marshall 6100 Balanced out to the mix des, i used my other thign which is rocktron Voodu Valve.
WIth speaker simulator, and i tried to bypass it.
The whole difference in the world!
Basicly some EQ difference, but very noticeable!
I still dont know what exactly to do, but if i will stick to not amping my guitar amp on stage, i shoudl really look at this as a whole new ball game!
BEcause i dont knwo what pre-amp, amp shoudl i use right now. I have tried zillion, but all throguh different poweramps, and cabinet.
I really liek the thought of not having a cabinet behind you on live sets.
I am a singer, and if i want to hear myself good when playing, my guitar shoudl really, be loud. Or cabinet shoudl be placed really good, which is not always possible!
I want the sound in my ears! And now i have foudn the way!
The only thign that i am still very concerned... HOw will the sound of my guitar, (not beign) miked, sound liek?
What will i lose? What will i gain?
Soundwise?
I mean, one thing is setting up thetone you like, when turning the knob on your amp, standing infront of it. Move away 3 meters and you would move that mid knob a bit to the 12 o'clock position...right?
THe thing is that we eve hear different than the mics hear!