My Walls Are Concrete? ahhhhhhhh
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From what I understand, as long as you seal the back of the panel absorber with a material heavier than the face (Ethan should be able to clarify this), then you could install a notched wooden hanging bar to the back of the panel.
Then, on the wall, install another notched wooden bar using your nails. Now, you can mount a panel anywhere on your wall!
And yes, those nail "shooters" do kick butt don't they
Peace,
Lunatic
Then, on the wall, install another notched wooden bar using your nails. Now, you can mount a panel anywhere on your wall!
And yes, those nail "shooters" do kick butt don't they
Peace,
Lunatic
You can also fasten to concrete with a shotgun:
http://www.hilti.ca/holca/modules/prcat/prca_navigation.jsp?OID=-29389
http://www.hilti.ca/holca/modules/prcat/prca_navigation.jsp?OID=-29389
Blue Bear Sound
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Or you have a good possibility of doing some real treatment using John Sayer's Slot Resonators.... you could frame up the concrete with studs, and use acoustic insulation covered by a combination of slots and material to get the desired acoustic effect. Will be much better than panels.
Check out John's site for great detail on the subject.
Check out John's site for great detail on the subject.
I'll give you a little more info. I'm in the process of upgrading my console which I'm buying with a custom desk with built in patchbays. So yesterday I went to my studio and basically unhooked EVERYTHING (oh man I was in shock) to make way for the new goodies... ever notice how it only takes less than 20 minutes to have your studio in shambles.
So I figured that since my studio was all wide open I should get in there and do some more sound treatment as well. I'm actually very happy with my back wall. I have one DIY wall unit behind me (from ceiling to floor) in the middle to help with my imaging. It's about 10" deep with 6" of rigid rockwool with a 4" air gap. I also have two small bass traps in the back corners (these probably don't absorb that low).
At the moment, I'm most concerned with the wall behind my monitors, the one I face. But here's some good news. That concrete wall has actually already been framed with 2x4s 16" oc as Blue Bear mentioned earlier. I didn't realize that until I ripped a piece off today. So I figured what the hell, and completely gutted that wall. But at least I now have studs to work with on at least one wall.
I have a ton of literature from John S. an others that I've been collecting for some time. So I'm going to put something together for that "front" wall and I'm re-post here. Please check back because I love all the input.
Thanks.
So I figured that since my studio was all wide open I should get in there and do some more sound treatment as well. I'm actually very happy with my back wall. I have one DIY wall unit behind me (from ceiling to floor) in the middle to help with my imaging. It's about 10" deep with 6" of rigid rockwool with a 4" air gap. I also have two small bass traps in the back corners (these probably don't absorb that low).
At the moment, I'm most concerned with the wall behind my monitors, the one I face. But here's some good news. That concrete wall has actually already been framed with 2x4s 16" oc as Blue Bear mentioned earlier. I didn't realize that until I ripped a piece off today. So I figured what the hell, and completely gutted that wall. But at least I now have studs to work with on at least one wall.
I have a ton of literature from John S. an others that I've been collecting for some time. So I'm going to put something together for that "front" wall and I'm re-post here. Please check back because I love all the input.
Thanks.
The link below shows a plan view of my control room:
http://members.cox.net/capstanrecording/ControlPlan.jpg
The first thing you'll probably notice is that my control room is small, but this is what I have to deal with at the moment. The wall of interest at this point is the wall behind my desk (the one without the absorber). Also keep in mind that the placement of my desk is not necessary in it's permanent place. I just put it in there with correct dimensions. In fact, the desk and console are still at my house, where I am modifying the desk and changing a few pots on the console.
The rear absorber is currently in my control room.
Regarding the wall of interest, I was thinking about putting a slat resonator, about 4 to 5 across in the center of the wall. Then putting some type of bass trap in the corners. Is it a bad idea to have a slat resonator behind my monitors, or is this good?
All comments and guidance are welcome.
I also plan to put some diffusors on the side walls, but I want to get this one done first.
I can also send anyone the actual AutoCAD file used if any one wants mark-up on it.
http://members.cox.net/capstanrecording/ControlPlan.jpg
The first thing you'll probably notice is that my control room is small, but this is what I have to deal with at the moment. The wall of interest at this point is the wall behind my desk (the one without the absorber). Also keep in mind that the placement of my desk is not necessary in it's permanent place. I just put it in there with correct dimensions. In fact, the desk and console are still at my house, where I am modifying the desk and changing a few pots on the console.
The rear absorber is currently in my control room.
Regarding the wall of interest, I was thinking about putting a slat resonator, about 4 to 5 across in the center of the wall. Then putting some type of bass trap in the corners. Is it a bad idea to have a slat resonator behind my monitors, or is this good?
All comments and guidance are welcome.
I also plan to put some diffusors on the side walls, but I want to get this one done first.
I can also send anyone the actual AutoCAD file used if any one wants mark-up on it.
Blue Bear Sound
New member
Go to this site and post your questions -- might as well get it straight from the source! 
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