hobbestheprince
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Ok, I know this has probably been asked a billion times, so perhaps I'm beating a dead horse here ... but I'm looking for some advice nonetheless.
I am using Cool Edit Pro, and I've tried this technique but was basically on my own doing it. I've been trying to get that "Mutt Lange" sound for the backup vocals ... not necessarily Def Leppard stuff, but moreso those parts in Shania Twain songs. Here are a few examples:
The part when the background vocals are saying, "Gonna getcha" on "Gonna Getcha Good" from her Up! album.
And the part when the bgv's sing, "and there ain't no wayyyyyy" on "Forever and for Always" on her Up! album.
Now, I realize I have to record quite a few tracks for each harmony, but I get stuck on "rolling of the lows and boosting the highs" and stuff ... this is probably EQ I'm talking about. Cool Edit has a graphic equalizer with all of the slides right there, I'm not sure where to boost really, and when I did it on my own it became super hissy and the words were barely audible. Another thing I was wondering, is the compression. Can I just use a vocal comp, and keep redoing the vocal comp? I don't know why I have to do it more than once, but I read somewhere that Mutt compresses the sound ALOT.
Lastly, for the other harmonies I read that I have to delay the other bgv's about a millisecond, otherwise there will be some phasing that occurs. In the Cool Edit Pro's Delay section, I can put 1 ms, but it also asks what percentage in the mix or something like that for right and left channel. Should it be 50%, or 100%? I tried both, but didn't really notice any difference.
I really hope you guys can help me out, I've been recording stuff for a few years, so I know my way around the program fairly well, it's more the technical "speak" that throws me off. I just really love that robotish type sound, it's very sharp and adds alot of punch to the choruses .. that, and my girlfriend is a big Shania fan, it'd blow her away if I can even get close to mimicking something like this.
Thanks for your time, any comments and tips are certainly welcome.
-Eric
I am using Cool Edit Pro, and I've tried this technique but was basically on my own doing it. I've been trying to get that "Mutt Lange" sound for the backup vocals ... not necessarily Def Leppard stuff, but moreso those parts in Shania Twain songs. Here are a few examples:
The part when the background vocals are saying, "Gonna getcha" on "Gonna Getcha Good" from her Up! album.
And the part when the bgv's sing, "and there ain't no wayyyyyy" on "Forever and for Always" on her Up! album.
Now, I realize I have to record quite a few tracks for each harmony, but I get stuck on "rolling of the lows and boosting the highs" and stuff ... this is probably EQ I'm talking about. Cool Edit has a graphic equalizer with all of the slides right there, I'm not sure where to boost really, and when I did it on my own it became super hissy and the words were barely audible. Another thing I was wondering, is the compression. Can I just use a vocal comp, and keep redoing the vocal comp? I don't know why I have to do it more than once, but I read somewhere that Mutt compresses the sound ALOT.
Lastly, for the other harmonies I read that I have to delay the other bgv's about a millisecond, otherwise there will be some phasing that occurs. In the Cool Edit Pro's Delay section, I can put 1 ms, but it also asks what percentage in the mix or something like that for right and left channel. Should it be 50%, or 100%? I tried both, but didn't really notice any difference.
I really hope you guys can help me out, I've been recording stuff for a few years, so I know my way around the program fairly well, it's more the technical "speak" that throws me off. I just really love that robotish type sound, it's very sharp and adds alot of punch to the choruses .. that, and my girlfriend is a big Shania fan, it'd blow her away if I can even get close to mimicking something like this.
Thanks for your time, any comments and tips are certainly welcome.
-Eric