I actually manually gate my toms. I don't trust automatic/plug-in gates. I'll go in, cut out any bleed on the audio track that isn't tom hits, and then put in fades manually however it sounds best.
You either don't mix a genre where it is necessary to add 15db of high shelf, 9db of low shelf and then compress the crap out of it. If you did, you would be gating the crap out of everything.I am either lucky or stupid.
Never have found a need to use a gate on any drums ever...
You either don't mix a genre where it is necessary to add 15db of high shelf, 9db of low shelf and then compress the crap out of it. If you did, you would be gating the crap out of everything.
When I do more organic styles of music, there is no need to gate as long as the drummer has his dynamics together.
...the incredibly long ring of toms in software versions always bugged me, so I tend to edit the envelope to take a lot of it out...
I actually manually gate my toms. I don't trust automatic/plug-in gates. I'll go in, cut out any bleed on the audio track that isn't tom hits, and then put in fades manually however it sounds best.
Kicks and snares are too frequent; it'd take too long to manually gate those, so I put an actual gate on kicks and snares usually. I'm typically mixing rock/metal, so I'll either gate those two tracks and compress them a lot, or I'll take samples of their kit before I actually record, and then when I'm mixing, I'll leave the normal snare and kick alone (compression wise), and I'll layer in a sampled kick/snare right behind their natural kick/snare that I can compress and EQ the crap out of, but not have to worry about affecting the bleed.
Say you have a minute-long song. The only times the 16" tom is hit are between the :33 and :36 mark. Does that mean you delete ALL sounds from the 16" tom track except what's between :33 and :36?
That's what they mean. Clip everything and fade the tom ring out and you're done.
I never do it. I'll gate my toms sometimes, but I'm not manually editing that shit.
Gates are simple to use. You can make them shut gently so it sounds natural.
The difference I found is that it enabled me to turn up the toms more easily if I wanted, cuz there wasn't a bunch of other stuff coming up as well.
61000 said:Gate on the toms. What else do you put a gate on? I love how bleed works, but not on toms. But what else?