i'm not spending 100 dollars for a bunch of rigid fiberglass when all i need is bass trapping for a small closet i'm recording hip hop vocals in. I don''t have room in there for a 2 foot by 4 foot panel, everyone says the same thing, OC 705 for bass traps, make monster panel, yeah, does anyone actually have anything original that is effective, i mean really, Owen Corning is not the only mother to have created a product that absorbs low frequency sound, nor are they the only source of a product that would do similar even if not intended for that purpose, who's got some other ideas????
inexpensive bass trap alternative
- Thread starter Kerose
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if that is the cheap alternative than what is the standard???
i didn't choose that closet cuz it is nice and cozy, i chose it cuz it is in my basement and by far the most quiet place in the house, i have loud ass ducts, and pretty heavy traffic nearby, my basement closet is surrounded in poured concrete, if it wasn't for the door on it, it would be practically soundproof, so choosing another room is not really an option, unless i want to deal with cop cars in my recordings
i didn't choose that closet cuz it is nice and cozy, i chose it cuz it is in my basement and by far the most quiet place in the house, i have loud ass ducts, and pretty heavy traffic nearby, my basement closet is surrounded in poured concrete, if it wasn't for the door on it, it would be practically soundproof, so choosing another room is not really an option, unless i want to deal with cop cars in my recordings
NL5
Unpossible!
The "Standard" what?
For bass traps? For professional studios? Home studios?
There is no "standard". The best, cheapest solution is home made 703 or Rockwool panels for broadband absorption, or properly constructed bass traps with the same material.
As I said, the next step up is commercially produced bass traps/broadband absorbers such as Real Traps or GIK.
Next step up is to properly design a space. John Sayers forum is great for this.
After that, is a professionally designed and built space - such as Russ Berger Designs.
Hope that helps.
okay, i was referring strictly to DIY, if i didn't want to spend on that, i surely aint spending on commercial products,
okay, so i found something that is cheap enough and seems to be pretty good
atsacoustics.com/item--Roxul-AFB-Mineral-Wool-2-inch-Case-of-6--1006.htm[/url]
so now, i will begin a new thread, cuz i am still stuck with my super small area and need more custom direction on where to put this stuff!!
okay, so i found something that is cheap enough and seems to be pretty good
atsacoustics.com/item--Roxul-AFB-Mineral-Wool-2-inch-Case-of-6--1006.htm[/url]
so now, i will begin a new thread, cuz i am still stuck with my super small area and need more custom direction on where to put this stuff!!
RICK FITZPATRICK
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Then by all means since you already know...please, tell us..were all on the edge of our seats.
RICK FITZPATRICK
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bass trapping? for speech frequencies? You got to be fucking kidding me...what you been sniffing?
Then by all means since you already know...please, tell us..were all on the edge of our seats.
that's what I was asking, are you stupid, you honestly think that there is nothing else out there in the world that absorbs low frequencies than rigid fiberglass, you are quite naive
buckkillr8
David Gilmour's clone
Probably not the only thing out there in the world that will but it is the most widely used in DIY AND PRO applications amd the probably the best at doing what it does. The price is about as inexpensive as it comes too.
That link to ATS is a great place to get it along other materials for DIY panels.anybody who knows shit, will tell you bass trapping in a 3x5 foot room is quite necessary regardless if it's speech frequencies, i'm a fucking man, you would be surprised how deep a man's voice gets, pull that rubberband off your nuts and you might realize that, you get too much low frequency and you are severely reducing the intelligibility of the piece, especially hip hop lyrics, that shit needs to be crisp, so raise the fuck off my dick bitch
DrumArtist23
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Honestly Kerose, Rick is pretty much the go to guy (for me at least) when I want to know anything about treatment of a certain room. If you took about half the time you spent trying to be hard on the interwebs and put it into a search for closet treatment, you wouldn't have had to post in the first place.
So for your ease of mind and ours - If Rick believes your high for wanting to put bass traps in a small closet used for recording vocals, then I would put good money on him being right.
BTW - You probably wont get away with treating a closet for vocal recording for less than $200. Just my opinion.
d.bop
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You don't have to spend $100. Order two sheets of Roxul from ATSAcoustics, cut them in half (or smaller,) double them up and frame them.
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Cost Breakdown:
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$17.18 + Shipping - 2 single sheets of Roxul AFB from ATSAcoustics
$4.00 - 4 pieces of 1"x4"x4' wood from Menards
$0.97 - Pack of 20 wood screws from Wal-Mart
$6.00 - Clearance 2 queen size sheets (200 thread count) from Wal-Mart
TOTAL: $28.15 + Shipping for Roxul.
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I hope this isn't the way you treat people you actually know when you ask for help. After all, these are REAL people giving you THEIR time and energy to help YOU. Profanity and rudeness isn't needed and I for one am certainly offended by it (as are others, I'm sure.)
well you and your pal rick can come over to my house, you can lay down a vocal or whatever, and you tell me that there isn't an abundance of bass build up, you can even take a look at the spectrum analysis and see the large "hill", as it were, at around 125hz, I get results eq'ing that frequency out, but i don't have an eq i can insert between my devices, and don't want to go with eq on my software, also it won't sound as good as treating the room, also i spent lotttttsssss of time researching, but everybody was talking about the same treatment, did you read my post, i don't have the room for the standard type of treatment that has been out there on the "interwebs", that's why i was looking for specific help regarding my particular situation, so all i'm looking to do is eliminate the bass build up in my recordings
http://www.bobgolds.com/AbsorptionCoefficients.htm
go read look for a coefficient of 1.0 to 1.22 around 125hz these are your options no if ands or butts
go read look for a coefficient of 1.0 to 1.22 around 125hz these are your options no if ands or butts
thanks for the reply, yeah, i actually saw that ATSAcoustics site, i was looking at the Roxul AFB, it's nice they sell in single pieces, taht was the main dealbreaker in buying rigid fiberglass or whatever cuz the bulk pricing, when i only needed a small amount, here's the deal though: i don't have 4 feet of space to put a large trap up, here i'll see if a jpg will post
cool it works, okay, the green are shelves, three rows of them, the area i am recording is where i tore some down, the red line is a psuedo wall i put in of plywood to even out my left wall area with the right side, see, i can't really put bass traps in the corners, cuz i don't really have any, so can i put traps on the ceiling, will that help???
as for my remarks, i was originally only looking for help and this guy just comes in here, talking trash and being a dick, which was not cool, don't start putting people down and making them feel stupid when they are only looking for help, especially when this guy has no clue on what i am working with , sorry if you were offended
this is what you need for your space
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=278653&highlight=vocal+trap
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=278653&highlight=vocal+trap
okay but i don't see how this helps the bass problem, are you implying that a trap such as this behind the mic will reduce the low frequency buildup i'm experiencing, i can probably mount something this small on the wall behind the mic,
alright, this might be a stretch, but just for investigative purposes, i have 2 visco elastic pillows at home, they are each 18"x12", this is not that lightweight foam shit, no i'm talking an 80 dollar pillow it's heavy and dense as fuck, this stuff has got to be denser than any of these little corner traps i see auralex and whatnot selling, i would say just off the top of my head, each one weighs a good 5 pounds and is less than a cubic foot
d.bop
New member
The reflection filter won't help the bass. It's purpose is to reduce reflections from bouncing off the wall and back into the mic, which your bass traps will also do as well as balancing out the low end.
I would say build the traps and place them in corners. Like I said, you can cut the halves or fourths or whatever shape you want and then double them up. Basically, the lower the frequency, the more dense the material needs to be. There are calculators out there to calculate room modes and evertything if you want to be super precise.
Once your traps are in place maybe try recording with your back to one so your voice can travel a little longer into the opposite corner before it bounces back.
Memory foam pillows might work, all you can do is try.
As for the comments earlier, my point was that it's probably not wise to register to a forum askng for help and then start cussing people out within your first few posts. But oh well, water under the bridge. Welcome to the forums!
I would say build the traps and place them in corners. Like I said, you can cut the halves or fourths or whatever shape you want and then double them up. Basically, the lower the frequency, the more dense the material needs to be. There are calculators out there to calculate room modes and evertything if you want to be super precise.
Once your traps are in place maybe try recording with your back to one so your voice can travel a little longer into the opposite corner before it bounces back.
Memory foam pillows might work, all you can do is try.
As for the comments earlier, my point was that it's probably not wise to register to a forum askng for help and then start cussing people out within your first few posts. But oh well, water under the bridge. Welcome to the forums!