If u had $2000 or so to spend on a PC...
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Gidge
Lapdance Test Dummy
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/D6A94D6B2F7DA99186256A7F00747CC9
I think Id go with the Roll Your Own Thunderbird.....it handled 48 tracks of 24 bit audio with 40+ plugins used on this project....
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/5BE12CB69461932C86256B1D00772FB4
I think Id go with the Roll Your Own Thunderbird.....it handled 48 tracks of 24 bit audio with 40+ plugins used on this project....
http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/5BE12CB69461932C86256B1D00772FB4
wheelema
Boner-obo
PC - approx. $ 1.2K
Abit or Asus motherboard, 1ghz Celeron, 512MB RAM, 120GB RAID (2 60GB 7,200rpm IDE drives attached to a Promise RAID controller), CD-RW, 17" monitor, in a rack mounted case.
www.mwave.com
Digital/Analog 24bit/96khz audio card
RME DIGI96/8 PST $345
RME AEB4-O $155
www.macmidimusic.com
www.rme-audio.com/english/digi96/digi96ps.htm
I do not speak from experience here, this is all research at this point.
Abit or Asus motherboard, 1ghz Celeron, 512MB RAM, 120GB RAID (2 60GB 7,200rpm IDE drives attached to a Promise RAID controller), CD-RW, 17" monitor, in a rack mounted case.
www.mwave.com
Digital/Analog 24bit/96khz audio card
RME DIGI96/8 PST $345
RME AEB4-O $155
www.macmidimusic.com
www.rme-audio.com/english/digi96/digi96ps.htm
I do not speak from experience here, this is all research at this point.
not including a monitor but i just ordered a Athlon XP 1800+ 512MB RAM, DVD, cd-rw, 64mb video card,with a 40gig hard drive all for $509 this morning for my sister.
thats a great price and a great DAW also.
then get a RME or a Delta 1010,Staudio Cport,Motu2408... what ever sound card you want, and you shouldn't even spend $1400
thats a great price and a great DAW also.
then get a RME or a Delta 1010,Staudio Cport,Motu2408... what ever sound card you want, and you shouldn't even spend $1400
tubedude
New member
www.pricewatch.com
Personally, build the pro-rec roll-your-own (complete instructions on the prorec site) with a 1.4 ghz Athlon ($99!) and the Iwill kk266 ($89) with a 7200 rmp harddrive, and you should pull it off for about $500, that leaves $1500, with which you SHOULD buy a Motu 1224 and a Lucid GenX-6 clock. This will be such a great start that it almost doesnt matter what you do after that. Get a good pre and agood mic and you are in prosoundville. Dont let your wallet talk you into cheapo stuff, cause in 3 months you wont miss it at all... Skip the crappy motu 2408 stuff, if you have the money, get the best you can afford. Sonar is pretty cool and getting better all the time, but that expense is above and beyond the costs I;ve mentioned. DP3 is probably the best out there, but its mainly for mac.
Personally, build the pro-rec roll-your-own (complete instructions on the prorec site) with a 1.4 ghz Athlon ($99!) and the Iwill kk266 ($89) with a 7200 rmp harddrive, and you should pull it off for about $500, that leaves $1500, with which you SHOULD buy a Motu 1224 and a Lucid GenX-6 clock. This will be such a great start that it almost doesnt matter what you do after that. Get a good pre and agood mic and you are in prosoundville. Dont let your wallet talk you into cheapo stuff, cause in 3 months you wont miss it at all... Skip the crappy motu 2408 stuff, if you have the money, get the best you can afford. Sonar is pretty cool and getting better all the time, but that expense is above and beyond the costs I;ve mentioned. DP3 is probably the best out there, but its mainly for mac.
I'm already set up with my recording equipment. I'm using the MOTU 24i. But I am talking $2000 just on the computer alone. My PC now just doesn't have the balls that I need in a computer. I was on TigerDirect.com, and I was building a machine on there, after throwing in a nice size SCSI, 1.5 Gig of RAM and a few other things, my price tag was easily reaching $2000.
sorry man... i ordered the PC off Ubid.com
tubedude
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Use $400 of that money on the Lucid clock to clock that Motu with. It would be a smarter move than the SCSI, which isnt really neccessary anymore with the high thoughput 7200rpm drives. Put 2 drives in, one for everything, one for audio, and you'll be just fine. You can build a rocking box for $800, and then spend the rest on dual monitors and a clock. Dual monitors would be much nicer than SCSI, IMO, and you'd be totally fine with only half the RAM. And since SCSI wont affect your sound any, and the clock would greatly improve the final product, it makes more sense to me.
Build the prorec one, its so easy its almost sinful, and it'll save you a few hundred dollars over buying one prebuilt. Hunt down a windows 2000 disk from someone you know and you're in business.
www.pricewatch.com
Build the prorec one, its so easy its almost sinful, and it'll save you a few hundred dollars over buying one prebuilt. Hunt down a windows 2000 disk from someone you know and you're in business.
www.pricewatch.com
You mentioned getting a LUCID clock instead of a SCSI. The SCSI I was looking at was a 15000 rpm drive, costs about double the price of buying a 7200 IDE. What does the clock do, or maybe you can point towards a website that could tell me?
The computer I had put together so far consisted of:
Soyo P4ISR mobo
P4 1.8 (i am not a fan of amd or celeron chips),
1.5 Gig of PC133 RAM 64x72 (ram is cheap nowadays),
Maxtor 40.9 Gig IDE 7200 RPM,
Seagate 18 Gig SCSI at 15000 RPM w/controller,
Yamaha 24x CDRW,
56x cd-rom,
3.5" floppy drive,
SB live sound card,
GeForce3 Ti-200 64MB 4xAGP sound card(dont really need it, but what the hell),
modem,
LinkSys networking kit (2 NICs and hub),
21" monitor (.25MM 1600x1200).
I hit $2100 with that setup. I am just trying to avoid building another computer than I end up being unhappy with a few weeks later. So, I am poking around people to get some ideas on what they would get.
The computer I had put together so far consisted of:
Soyo P4ISR mobo
P4 1.8 (i am not a fan of amd or celeron chips),
1.5 Gig of PC133 RAM 64x72 (ram is cheap nowadays),
Maxtor 40.9 Gig IDE 7200 RPM,
Seagate 18 Gig SCSI at 15000 RPM w/controller,
Yamaha 24x CDRW,
56x cd-rom,
3.5" floppy drive,
SB live sound card,
GeForce3 Ti-200 64MB 4xAGP sound card(dont really need it, but what the hell),
modem,
LinkSys networking kit (2 NICs and hub),
21" monitor (.25MM 1600x1200).
I hit $2100 with that setup. I am just trying to avoid building another computer than I end up being unhappy with a few weeks later. So, I am poking around people to get some ideas on what they would get.
Clocks
Greetings,
I too am unsure about how much a word clock will add to your sound quality.
I know TubeDude recommends them highly, so they must be doing something right. Please stick me with a link or something to edumacate myself on this if you can. I find it amazing that buying a componant to synchonize your digital audio (I think thats all it does) is better to have then a second pic or extra channels of input or something.
SirRiff
Greetings,
I too am unsure about how much a word clock will add to your sound quality.
I know TubeDude recommends them highly, so they must be doing something right. Please stick me with a link or something to edumacate myself on this if you can. I find it amazing that buying a componant to synchonize your digital audio (I think thats all it does) is better to have then a second pic or extra channels of input or something.
SirRiff
tubedude
New member
Well, I'm stoned right now, and I'm not the one to explain it to you when I'm not, so I can tell a little, but let Sjoko2 point you in the right direction about clocks. Hes very clock-smart.
Just to post the benefits on my end...
1) better stereo image
2) better depth
3) tighter timing, less jitter...
there is more, but those are the most important... even your commercial cd's you play on your computer will sound better and more profeesional.
Check out www.digido.com , there is some good info there, and ask sjoko about them in the racks column, he knows much. If you're gonna get a scsi, at least make it your BIG drive, not the smaller one. You only need a few gigs for your slow drive,
Just to post the benefits on my end...
1) better stereo image
2) better depth
3) tighter timing, less jitter...
there is more, but those are the most important... even your commercial cd's you play on your computer will sound better and more profeesional.
Check out www.digido.com , there is some good info there, and ask sjoko about them in the racks column, he knows much. If you're gonna get a scsi, at least make it your BIG drive, not the smaller one. You only need a few gigs for your slow drive,
As a computer followup...
Greetings,
On the same notion of "don't skimp now on quality" why skimp on cumputer stuff?
A maching built on a Soyo Dragon Plus 266a chipset (~150$), Athlon XP 1800+ (184$) and 512 SD DDR (128$) ram is a freakin mainframe!
I honestly don't think you would need to even consider upgrading for years (since the performance increaese would not be worth the price increase but i could be wrong)
The basic componants come to 462$, an ATI Radeon is like 125$ (Duel monitors), the WD Caviar (Special Edition) 7200 Hard Drive WD1000JB (275$) is the best 7200 drive out there (isn't it?) and its freakin huge capacity to boot. Subtotal=862$. Add a Yamaha CRW2100 24x burner (175$) to produce your masterpieces and your at 1037$
Grab an old monitor (or two), case, keyboard, mouse, cdrom and you are set.
Then add soundcard of choice, (Motu 1224 and a Lucid GenX-6 clock as recommended, I'm not sure about prices)
So i admit the computer is a bit pricy, but its really pound for pound the best you can get right now, and I personaly don't think better performance will be affordable in the near future.
All the extra bells and whistles (raid and big duel monitors) can come later, but i can't image howmany realtime manipulations you could do while downloading porn, defraging your hard drive and compiling java all at the same time. It would be a friggin beast of a machine.
Anyways, that is my design for my first (and only) DAW construction. Just wanted to share.
SirRiff
Greetings,
On the same notion of "don't skimp now on quality" why skimp on cumputer stuff?
A maching built on a Soyo Dragon Plus 266a chipset (~150$), Athlon XP 1800+ (184$) and 512 SD DDR (128$) ram is a freakin mainframe!
I honestly don't think you would need to even consider upgrading for years (since the performance increaese would not be worth the price increase but i could be wrong)
The basic componants come to 462$, an ATI Radeon is like 125$ (Duel monitors), the WD Caviar (Special Edition) 7200 Hard Drive WD1000JB (275$) is the best 7200 drive out there (isn't it?) and its freakin huge capacity to boot. Subtotal=862$. Add a Yamaha CRW2100 24x burner (175$) to produce your masterpieces and your at 1037$
Grab an old monitor (or two), case, keyboard, mouse, cdrom and you are set.
Then add soundcard of choice, (Motu 1224 and a Lucid GenX-6 clock as recommended, I'm not sure about prices)
So i admit the computer is a bit pricy, but its really pound for pound the best you can get right now, and I personaly don't think better performance will be affordable in the near future.
All the extra bells and whistles (raid and big duel monitors) can come later, but i can't image howmany realtime manipulations you could do while downloading porn, defraging your hard drive and compiling java all at the same time. It would be a friggin beast of a machine.
Anyways, that is my design for my first (and only) DAW construction. Just wanted to share.
SirRiff
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tubedude
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https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=37802&highlight=clock
Yeah, if thats the case, buy what you want, but the computer isnt gonna make a difference in sound quality, but the more power the better, and theres never really enough, even with the top of the line everything right now. I'm thinking the 1.4 will serve me well for a long time, though. Theres no getting ahead, something new comes out every day. Check that link above and see what you htink, theres some other links there too...
Yeah, if thats the case, buy what you want, but the computer isnt gonna make a difference in sound quality, but the more power the better, and theres never really enough, even with the top of the line everything right now. I'm thinking the 1.4 will serve me well for a long time, though. Theres no getting ahead, something new comes out every day. Check that link above and see what you htink, theres some other links there too...
Powerfull
Greetings,
I suppose if many people are getting 24 tracks of 24 bit audio with realtime effects with non-mainframe setups there is no real reason to waste money. However I love the stuff that computers can do for me, not so much being inside the case and tinkering, so I am more of a build a supercomputer, and then keep it for 10 years kinda person. Eveything is just so damn cheap these days.
SirRiff
Greetings,
I suppose if many people are getting 24 tracks of 24 bit audio with realtime effects with non-mainframe setups there is no real reason to waste money. However I love the stuff that computers can do for me, not so much being inside the case and tinkering, so I am more of a build a supercomputer, and then keep it for 10 years kinda person. Eveything is just so damn cheap these days.
SirRiff