Yeah thought that title "free" would get the tight ass lot in for a look
Hey guys wake up from time to time there is good equipment up for sale in this forum yet it always seems to be people advertising and fools leaving dumb comments and even dumber offers do you really believe people are dumb enough to ship goods to you and do it at a larger loss then they already are by sticking the stuff up here in the fist place but again you may be intrested in wasting key strokes on gear you never end up getting because you just wont pay up o well keep typing hey
need an example i advertised a guitar just like this guy is talking about below not even an offer yet ive heard people wingeing about not being able to find a decent electric guitar for a fair price now remember i said fair not firewood
QUOTEI don't hang here much, but I was browsing Dejanews, and I saw many
questions about Fernandes guitars. Expectedly, there weren't many answers,
mainly because Fernandes is a relatively small company, and for years their
specialty was low-cost copies of brand-name guitars --- neither the sort of
thing that gets you wide-spread acclaim.
I wanted to provide some brief facts about Fernandes, along with some
opinions garnered from years of playing/collecting these guitars, as well
as 17 years of professional musical experience.
First of all, Fernandes was never officially sued by Fender, but there are
Fernandes strats and teles know as "lawsuit guitars." In the mid-''80s,
Fender cracked down on companies making Fender copies. They won and
injunction against ESP. With proof of judicial favor in hand, all Fender
had to do was send threatening letters to the various companies. Fernandes
received one such letter. After that Fernandes, and several other
companies (Schecter was the only company licensed to use patented Fender
designs) made changes to their copies. Fernandes copies produced prior to
these changes are known as "lawsuit guitars."
As for Fernandes quality, one should stop judging guitars by their price
range. It's not a sign of poor or mediocre quality that Fernandes can
produce an excellent guitar for $200-$400 (I'm referring to the older
strats and teles). They learned how to do this LONG before Fender followed
their lead and moved production overseas. Rely on your hands, head, and
heart to tell you what a guitar is all about. I've played and owned almost
everything at one time or another, and I'm blown away by Fernandes quality.
I see people compare Fernandes strats to Fender Squiers, for example. Bad
comparison. The well-chosen and properly-setup Fernandes is at least two
notches above Squiers and one notch above Made In Japan (MIJ) Fenders (just
my opinion; your mileage may vary). Fender's higher price has nothing to
do with quality, although they make many excellent guitars. Calvin Klein
jeans don't cover your ass better or last a minute longer than Wranglers,
but compare price tags.
I'm a professional musician of 17 years, and I currently supplement my
income doing studio session work. I get work or don't get work based
largely on my tone. I own a Les Paul, a G&L ASAT, and have owned 6
Fenders. However, for the typical session I'll take two Fernandes teles
(of my collection of 9) and one Fernandes strat. Admittedly, these guitars
have been professionally setup --- sometimes a pro fret-milling is
necessary, as with most production guitars if you want them *right* --- but
almost none are modified, except for the occasional pickup swap.
A couple of other things: The pre-lawsuit (threat) guitars are not
necessarily better, but they damn sure feature heavier hardware, hotter
pickups, higher-quality pots and switches, and better wire. Their assembly
is the same as the more recent ones, and consistency has always been a
strong suit. They also *look* and are appointed more like the '50's
Fenders they are patterned after. E-mail me for how to tell the difference
between pre- and post-.
Also, Fernandes strats and teles are among the best values on the market.
There is no better bang for the buck, IMO, or even twice the buck.
Finally, the new Fernandes stuff (they've stopped producing strats and
teles --- stock up now) is scary good, not to mention the stir the
Sustainer is causing. Fernandes is about to be on the map. Plus, they're
a great company that cares about their customers --- something the bigger
companies are overlooking nowadays.
Okay, so this sounds like one huge Fernandes plug. I guess it is, but it's
not self-motivated. Hell, I don't want folks to start buying up the old
stuff and driving up prices. I really just wanted to share some
little-known info and spread the word a little. I like turning folks on to
cool stuff. Maybe that's why I've gone to school for 12 years to be a
teacher. It's in my blood.
Cheers,
Will END QUOTE
Hey guys wake up from time to time there is good equipment up for sale in this forum yet it always seems to be people advertising and fools leaving dumb comments and even dumber offers do you really believe people are dumb enough to ship goods to you and do it at a larger loss then they already are by sticking the stuff up here in the fist place but again you may be intrested in wasting key strokes on gear you never end up getting because you just wont pay up o well keep typing hey
need an example i advertised a guitar just like this guy is talking about below not even an offer yet ive heard people wingeing about not being able to find a decent electric guitar for a fair price now remember i said fair not firewood
QUOTEI don't hang here much, but I was browsing Dejanews, and I saw many
questions about Fernandes guitars. Expectedly, there weren't many answers,
mainly because Fernandes is a relatively small company, and for years their
specialty was low-cost copies of brand-name guitars --- neither the sort of
thing that gets you wide-spread acclaim.
I wanted to provide some brief facts about Fernandes, along with some
opinions garnered from years of playing/collecting these guitars, as well
as 17 years of professional musical experience.
First of all, Fernandes was never officially sued by Fender, but there are
Fernandes strats and teles know as "lawsuit guitars." In the mid-''80s,
Fender cracked down on companies making Fender copies. They won and
injunction against ESP. With proof of judicial favor in hand, all Fender
had to do was send threatening letters to the various companies. Fernandes
received one such letter. After that Fernandes, and several other
companies (Schecter was the only company licensed to use patented Fender
designs) made changes to their copies. Fernandes copies produced prior to
these changes are known as "lawsuit guitars."
As for Fernandes quality, one should stop judging guitars by their price
range. It's not a sign of poor or mediocre quality that Fernandes can
produce an excellent guitar for $200-$400 (I'm referring to the older
strats and teles). They learned how to do this LONG before Fender followed
their lead and moved production overseas. Rely on your hands, head, and
heart to tell you what a guitar is all about. I've played and owned almost
everything at one time or another, and I'm blown away by Fernandes quality.
I see people compare Fernandes strats to Fender Squiers, for example. Bad
comparison. The well-chosen and properly-setup Fernandes is at least two
notches above Squiers and one notch above Made In Japan (MIJ) Fenders (just
my opinion; your mileage may vary). Fender's higher price has nothing to
do with quality, although they make many excellent guitars. Calvin Klein
jeans don't cover your ass better or last a minute longer than Wranglers,
but compare price tags.
I'm a professional musician of 17 years, and I currently supplement my
income doing studio session work. I get work or don't get work based
largely on my tone. I own a Les Paul, a G&L ASAT, and have owned 6
Fenders. However, for the typical session I'll take two Fernandes teles
(of my collection of 9) and one Fernandes strat. Admittedly, these guitars
have been professionally setup --- sometimes a pro fret-milling is
necessary, as with most production guitars if you want them *right* --- but
almost none are modified, except for the occasional pickup swap.
A couple of other things: The pre-lawsuit (threat) guitars are not
necessarily better, but they damn sure feature heavier hardware, hotter
pickups, higher-quality pots and switches, and better wire. Their assembly
is the same as the more recent ones, and consistency has always been a
strong suit. They also *look* and are appointed more like the '50's
Fenders they are patterned after. E-mail me for how to tell the difference
between pre- and post-.
Also, Fernandes strats and teles are among the best values on the market.
There is no better bang for the buck, IMO, or even twice the buck.
Finally, the new Fernandes stuff (they've stopped producing strats and
teles --- stock up now) is scary good, not to mention the stir the
Sustainer is causing. Fernandes is about to be on the map. Plus, they're
a great company that cares about their customers --- something the bigger
companies are overlooking nowadays.
Okay, so this sounds like one huge Fernandes plug. I guess it is, but it's
not self-motivated. Hell, I don't want folks to start buying up the old
stuff and driving up prices. I really just wanted to share some
little-known info and spread the word a little. I like turning folks on to
cool stuff. Maybe that's why I've gone to school for 12 years to be a
teacher. It's in my blood.
Cheers,
Will END QUOTE
