Fostex Harddisk setup Help ?

Dj SoundStorm

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Hi All

for my home studio I decided to have to seperate recording enviroments my computer and three Fostex HardDisk I recently got two fostex D-160 16 tracks and on D-90 8 track for a total of 40 tracks.

For my main console I have behringer
Eurodesk SL324FX Pro. Also for my Dat I have a Fostex D-25 which I plan to use with my harddisk recorders.

My main question is for my Harddisk recorders since they will be seprate do I need to use another mixer with them ? or can I just go ahead and connect to my main console ?

Any help advice would be appreciated


If I needed to get a seperate mixer for my harddisk would the Fostex VF16Ex or the VM200 digital mixer with these units ?
 
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Do you have lightpipe to go into all the units.
Also you will need sync all them up with a clock. You can also sinc the VE160's with midi
 
No you will also need some hardware.
The VF160 can only record 8 tracks unless you have an 8 channel a/d - d/a converter.
Something like this http://www.behringer.com/ADA8000/index.cfm?lang=ENG
This may not be the best but it is the cheepest.

Also what do you plan to do with all 40 tracks. Mix or record

I think if you are mixing 40 tracks you will have better luck using a PC.
 
harddisk

I would like just mostly the fostex setup for recording I don't have a vf160 yet just trying decide what digital mixer would work best the other one I was checking into is the Behringer digtial mixer the DDx3216 to get audio off the harddisk do I connect a cd burner to the mixer or harddisk ?
 
Let me try to help....

your description is quite confusing...but I'll try to help. A few important things to keep in mind:

You will need a mixer (a digital one, preferably) to record multiple tracks of audio to your hard disk recorders. Ideally, you should buy a digital mixer that can communicate with your hard disk recorders using the digital format called "ADAT". You also will need a mixer (again, a digital one, preferably) to "mix down" the tracks recorded and stored on your Fostex hard disk recorders to a 2 track stereo master. To create a 2 track stereo master, most people mix down from their mixer to either DAT, MiniDisc, CD-R or even a computer. Again, I would recommend a mixer that supports the ADAT format, since all the Fostex hard disk recorders you mention should have ADAT "in" and "out" built-in. If you want to mix down to 5.1 Surround Sound, then you would need a hi-definition digital recorder (Alesis and Mackie make mastering devices that support multi-channel digital masters) or DVD recorder.

To answer your question...yes, you would connect your CD Recorder or DAT recorder to the digital S/PDIF outputs on your digital mixer.

Keep in mind that a single ADAT "jack" (or "port" or "card") can only handle 8 tracks at a time. So, since it sounds like you would like to record up to 40 tracks, you will need to buy a digital mixer that supports multiple ADAT cards. I think the Behringer digital mixer can handle up to 32 tracks using ADAT, but you will probably need to purchase additional ADAT "cards" for this mixer in order to support 32 tracks of digital audio in/out. Same thing with the Yamaha digital mixers (you will need to buy additional ADAT cards in order to support all those tracks you plan to record).

You will also need to sync these multiple recorders, using Midi Time code or some other sync standard. I am not an expert in this area, but I'm sure someone else can help you out.

I don't know why you would want to buy a VF-160 or VF-16, since you already own several digital hard disk recorders. You simply need a digital mixer. The VF-160 and VF-16 are digital hard disk recorders AND mixers, and their mixing capabilities are quite limited when compared to dedicated digital mixers like the ones made by Behringer and Yamaha (2 manufacturers that support the ADAT format). In addition, there is only 1 ADAT "in" and 1 ADAT "out" on the VF-160 and VF-16, so you would be limited 8 tracks of digital audio at mixdown. Yes, you can record 16 tracks simultaneously on these units by using an external digital mixer (or the ADA8000) to send 8 channels of audio via ADAT to the VF-160 (in addition to the 8 analog inputs on the VF-160). But this feature would not be of use in your situation, since you want to record and mix 40 tracks of digital audio simultaneously.

The bottom line - you need a GOOD digital mixer that supports at least 32 channels of ADAT digital audio.

Hope this helps.

ray
 
Ray is right. I'd also add that the VF160 is not really going to offer you anything as regards mixing. The max you can get in or out is 8 channels over ADAT.

Orc
 
Dj SoundStorm said:
Thanks very much for the info :)

I'm going to take a look at the behringer digital mixer.

I personally do use the Behringer DDX3216 with a D160 (and sometimes one or two VR880). Works fine. I do like the Behringer for its routing flexibility and also (don't tell anyone I wrote this) for its sound.

Rainer
 
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