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Ignore the mess ups in the drumming. I didn't really try to play anything, I just wanted to test the recording. I recorded this with a Zoom H6 with the M/S mic in front of the kit. Into the H6 an SM57 is on the snare drum, an E906 is on the floor tom, A rode NT-1000 is on the left cymbals right above the toms, a Samson C05 CL live condenser mic is about 6 inches from the bass drum, a Zoom h4n with it's stock XY mic's are on the right side of the drum kit right above the crashes and ride.
I want to know with this set up if you see any improvements I need to make. I used the new vintage compressor that just came in the Logic update a few weeks ago. I EQ'd every drum and the Master. The kick drum has a ton of bass and sounds really good to me but I have a massive subwoofer for my studio. If I turn the subwoofer off and go by the Rokit 6 monitors I have, the bass does not sound that great, (even though online people say they are low end heavy,) but when I listen to professional recordings and turn the subwoofer off, it doesn't sound that great there either. So, I am not sure if I am doing the bass correct. I don't want to EQ it so it just sounds awesome for people with a set up like mine. Should I copy and paste the bass drum and EQ it twice? One for low and one for mid? My Rokit 6's are set flat and they don't have hardly any bass. I use the SBX10 M audio subwoofer which is huge, I barely have it up and it shakes the walls. The bass drum for the bass drum mic is around 50 to 60hz. Although I have the bass drum a little higher as it shows up in the other mic's as well. I EQ'd it out of some of them but couldn't due to the toms on the left Rode NT-1000. The stereo image in front from the M/S mic is turned to +6 meaning wide image.
I have thought about getting a bass drum mic, but with my system this mic seems to sound better on my bass drum than when I recorded at a professional studio with a dynamic mic. The large diaphragm condenser does not sound great on the bass drum but this looks like a dynamic mic, but it's not. It's a live condenser and it can get closer and is less sensitive. That is why it's that close to the bass drum. The snare drum may sound too high but it's not my regular drum it's a pork pie little squealer. I tried to EQ it the best I could.
I took the memory cards out of both Zoom's and transferred the files to Logic. Because the drums are in a different room and I don't want to carry a computer and saffire pro 40 in there. The screen capture make the audio sound a bit more distorted than it sounds on the actual mix due to the software used.
Also, I am looking for what you guys recommend for the two rack toms. I have the e906 on the floor tom and SM57 on the snare. The two toms are being picked up by the left condenser mic which is overhead but not high, and the XY mic on the right side. I would like to EQ those toms individually. I have the capsule for my Zoom h6 to fit in 6 microphones, plus the Zoom h4n fits two mics, plus XY. I do have even more condenser mic's but they are large diaphragm and I figured it wouldn't be good to be directly on the tom.
I wanted to buy the Shure Beta bass drum mic, but I have recorded with it in studio's before and honestly it does not sound as good as this 70 dollar live condenser Samson C05 CL mic to my ears. The bass is a lot thicker with this.
Any other idea's would be appreciated. The two other condenser mic's I have not in use are the Blue Yeti Pro and the Rode NT-1A. Also, these are the pre amps on the Zoom h6, It accepts +4 signals from external pre amps. I have a large one in my rack but I also have two smaller one's that could go in the drum room. Would it really make much of a difference? The small ones are the FMR audio, really nice pre amp persons blue tube.
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I want to know with this set up if you see any improvements I need to make. I used the new vintage compressor that just came in the Logic update a few weeks ago. I EQ'd every drum and the Master. The kick drum has a ton of bass and sounds really good to me but I have a massive subwoofer for my studio. If I turn the subwoofer off and go by the Rokit 6 monitors I have, the bass does not sound that great, (even though online people say they are low end heavy,) but when I listen to professional recordings and turn the subwoofer off, it doesn't sound that great there either. So, I am not sure if I am doing the bass correct. I don't want to EQ it so it just sounds awesome for people with a set up like mine. Should I copy and paste the bass drum and EQ it twice? One for low and one for mid? My Rokit 6's are set flat and they don't have hardly any bass. I use the SBX10 M audio subwoofer which is huge, I barely have it up and it shakes the walls. The bass drum for the bass drum mic is around 50 to 60hz. Although I have the bass drum a little higher as it shows up in the other mic's as well. I EQ'd it out of some of them but couldn't due to the toms on the left Rode NT-1000. The stereo image in front from the M/S mic is turned to +6 meaning wide image.
I have thought about getting a bass drum mic, but with my system this mic seems to sound better on my bass drum than when I recorded at a professional studio with a dynamic mic. The large diaphragm condenser does not sound great on the bass drum but this looks like a dynamic mic, but it's not. It's a live condenser and it can get closer and is less sensitive. That is why it's that close to the bass drum. The snare drum may sound too high but it's not my regular drum it's a pork pie little squealer. I tried to EQ it the best I could.
I took the memory cards out of both Zoom's and transferred the files to Logic. Because the drums are in a different room and I don't want to carry a computer and saffire pro 40 in there. The screen capture make the audio sound a bit more distorted than it sounds on the actual mix due to the software used.
Also, I am looking for what you guys recommend for the two rack toms. I have the e906 on the floor tom and SM57 on the snare. The two toms are being picked up by the left condenser mic which is overhead but not high, and the XY mic on the right side. I would like to EQ those toms individually. I have the capsule for my Zoom h6 to fit in 6 microphones, plus the Zoom h4n fits two mics, plus XY. I do have even more condenser mic's but they are large diaphragm and I figured it wouldn't be good to be directly on the tom.
I wanted to buy the Shure Beta bass drum mic, but I have recorded with it in studio's before and honestly it does not sound as good as this 70 dollar live condenser Samson C05 CL mic to my ears. The bass is a lot thicker with this.
Any other idea's would be appreciated. The two other condenser mic's I have not in use are the Blue Yeti Pro and the Rode NT-1A. Also, these are the pre amps on the Zoom h6, It accepts +4 signals from external pre amps. I have a large one in my rack but I also have two smaller one's that could go in the drum room. Would it really make much of a difference? The small ones are the FMR audio, really nice pre amp persons blue tube.
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