AT4050 vs MSH-1's
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kojdogg
bollocks redux!
yep gorty... i looked through my sent pms and on 12-2-07 i wrote to you:I have a pair of matched MSH-1's and an AT4050. Early stages in my tracking with the AT4050 so far but on my acoustic instruments I am not impressed with the AT4050 yet. The AT4050 $600 AUD, the matched pair of MSH-1's $60 AUD.......THE WINNER SO FAR IS THE MSH-1's.
Go figure!
"well, try out a pair of the naints [sic] before you do anything else... if you have a good acoustic guitar and are in a good sounding room, small dc's can be better. i'd try those out with your stock boss pres and see if you need to really add anything. "
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danny.guitar
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Someone here posted clips recently of his acoustic with an AT4050 and it sounded damn good, I forgot who it was. I've also briefly used the AT4050 on acoustic and loved it. Maybe it's just not the right mic for your guitar?
Can't go wrong with a Naiant/good SDC though if your source/room sounds good.
Can't go wrong with a Naiant/good SDC though if your source/room sounds good.
Gorty
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yep gorty... i looked through my sent pms and on 12-2-07 i wrote to you:
"well, try out a pair of the naints [sic] before you do anything else... if you have a good acoustic guitar and are in a good sounding room, small dc's can be better. i'd try those out with your stock boss pres and see if you need to really add anything. "
Correct koji. I am more than pleased with the MSH-1's. All these thumbs ups to the AT4050 must have some creedance. Like I said earlier to you koji, I think I need to try out the different positions etc of the AT4050.
kojdogg
bollocks redux!
Gorty
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I mentioned this before, I think it was chrisharris who captured some brilliant tone from his acoustic.
I am definitely hoping that I just need to give the AT4050 more of a work out before being to harsh in my premature???? review!
Gorty
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Correctamundo! I was just fed so much praise and what have you over the AT4050 and it's abilities in front of an acoustic guitar from reputable references. I bought the mic with this purpose in mind....acoustic guitar!
I am determined to get what I want from this mic and my acoustic guitars!
Gorty
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That audio sample I sent you was the Naiant mics. The nylon acoustic and mandolin were both mic'd up with the MSH-1's.
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60's guy
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I used to record my acoustic guitar with pair of C4s to two tracks and the results were somewhat acceptable dependent upon which model acoustic guitar I was recording at the time.
I discovered that the best results achieved were when I use an MXLV67 front and center. Less is more?
As you said, Gorty......go figure.
I discovered that the best results achieved were when I use an MXLV67 front and center. Less is more?
As you said, Gorty......go figure.
HeyHeyMyMy
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I was never too fond of the 4050 on my acoustic guitar and regularly opted for a pair of Naiants instead. This doesn't mean that the 4050 can't sound great on acoustic guitar (as others have already stated) and if I were you, Gorty, I wouldn't abandon it all together on acoustic guitar. Keep messing around with it, or maybe pair it with something else. In the end, the AT4050 is advertised as a mic that can sound good on a lot of sources, but after reading a lot of posts here and elsewhere, it doesn't seem to see that much action on acoustic guitars. Good luck!
Reading through this post it sounds like we're talking about a single 4050 vs a pair of MSH-1s? I know your point is that both of them cost less than a single 4050, and I'm glad you like them, but this isn't even apples to oranges, it's apples to orange. On a solo acoustic track, a stereo track from a pair of mediocre mics will sound better than a mono track from a high end mic to most people.
Gorty
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I'm talking a mono track from the AT4050 and a mono track from one of the MSH-1's.
Gorty
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Gorty,
What type of acoustic is it?
It's a Fender 12 string, strung as a 6 at the moment. Solid top, great sounding, nearly 20 years old.
Gorty
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Don't worry, I aint gonna be giving up on the AT4050. I'm just a little disappointed at this stage. Thanx HeyHey.
Gorty
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Yes. I'm just chasing the results I have heard and led to believe I would get with the AT4050 and dammit, I am going to achieve that!
antichef
pornk rock
use all three -- naiants in xy about 5-6" back from the 14th fret, 4050 in figure 8 back about three feet, pointing generally between the soundhole and the neck. Put the naiants on a stereo track and the 4050 on a mono track. Mix to taste, possibly putting some light effects on the mono track.