Thanks for the kind words 1957, and your correct. The drums are loops, unfortunately they are all I can use at the moment. Murder, I appreciate the criticism. I noticed similar with the darker tone through my monitors but through my seiheiser headphones they sounded a bit trebly, so I thought I was in a happy middle. I will drop a bit in the 250hz area and see how that goes. I may play a bit in the treble registers as well and see how that sounds. As far as the drums, well frankly I hate them but like I said there all I have at the moment, but i'll work on the eq'ing a bit and see if that helps. The vocals are still trial and error with my limited experience. Any help in that area to make them more in the mix, thicker etc. would also be appreciated.