And tens of thousands of innocent non combatant men, women, and children. Not to mention their homes, businesses, infrastructure, every day lives, and their future.
The protests are not about Hamas being destroyed. They're about what I mentioned above. I mention this because the way that reads above makes it sound like the protests are about Hamas being destroyed - which is not accurate.
Their motives are not a secret. The early speculation of why this did this and their more recent stated motivation align.
Can you be more specific. What do you think is going to happen and why? How does that relate to what's happening in the middle east?
Not challenging you or necessarily disagreeing. Just trying to understand.
Did Israel enter unprovoked and kill 1400? No. They're responding to the worst terrorist attack of their lifetime. YES. Innocent men women and children will die. Many more than the Israelis. But, it's war. Obviously no one has told you war is hell. But, Israel (according to sane people) has the right to defend itself. Hamas knew what was going to happen. They're the bad guys, not Israel.
The protests are about the innocent Palestinians. It's a crying shame what's going to happen to them. But, Israel still has the right to defeat and destroy the enemy.
They only thing I've ever read about the attack is that they're tired of being occupied. Which is factually incorrect. Hamas is the government of GAZA. Gaza is not occupied. Right there, it's all bullshit.
In 2005 the Gaza Strip was given to the Palestinians. ALL Jews were removed from the area, and in 2005 or 2007 all military was gone. The land was 100% Palestinian. Their first order was to elect a government. They did, HAMAS. In 2008 Hamas started throwing rockets over the wall into Israel. Every time they shot rockets, Israel retaliated. One of things KNOWN to all Palestinians was Israel would destroy the home of the terrorist. Israel NEVER reoccupied Gaza. After Oct 7th, they will. They have to.
So, the statement of Gaza being occupied is a lie. You don't have to believe it. But, it's true. You're more worried about innocent civilians who voted in a terrorist organization to govern them, then you are about innocent Israelis defending themselves.
If you listen to Palestinian protesters, they're claiming Israel proper is occupied land. They want that back. Do you see that happening? Is that even right of them to ask for?
I have no idea what is going to happen. But, if the big picture plan on Oct 7 was just Hamas going in and slaughtering 1400 innocent people, and that's it. Hamas is stupider than fucking sin. Look at the war. If Oct 7 didn't happen, everyone in Gaza would be living the same lives. When this is over, is life going to be better for Palestinians? They lived in houses. Now, they'll be in tents. Is that an upgrade? 80% of Palestinians live way below the poverty line. Yet, they're given millions if not billions in aid every year. Where does that money go? What is the end game? I mean that seriously. Did Hamas expect Jews to give up Israel because they slaughtered 1400 out of 9 million. Does that make sense?
On the other hand, if Oct 7th is a prelude to something bigger, that makes sense. What? I don't know. It's probably dark and going to be extremely bloody. With lots of innocent civilian deaths.
As horrible as war is. War has taken place in every country since time began. I wouldn't know how to even attempt the math. If WW2 never happened, there'd be over 100 million more people on the earth. That's roughly how many died. Most of them would have children who would have had children... Is that a good or bad thing?
