Reggie said:BTW: I would worry a lot more about using 96K myself if people in the mainstream could listen to 96k CDs in their stereos.
I'm all for it, and that'll be the day I start tracking everything at 96K.
Reggie said:BTW: I would worry a lot more about using 96K myself if people in the mainstream could listen to 96k CDs in their stereos.
Reggie said:This is some of the stuff that I've never been able to quite get my head around. Say you have a source that contains some 20k information. But as with many natural sounds it isn't perfect sine waves. Would a 44.1k sample rate be unable to convey the little imperfections since it is only sampling enough times to basically encode some sort of 20kHz sound, thereby causing the AD or DA convertors to sort of guess what shape the wave really is?
Aaaaand my head exploded.
BTW: I would worry a lot more about using 96K myself if people in the mainstream could listen to 96k CDs in their stereos.
But 10kHz will have 4.41 samples taken of each of it's waveforms. Now look at the first waveform we drew. In that drawing we took 6 samples of the waveform and got an amplitude reading saying 0,2,2,0,2,2. imagine how inaccurate 4.41 samples are of a complex waveform. That is why digital high frequencies sound harsh!! The industry has constantly denied this factor and even gone to the extent of saying the hear can't distinguish between a square wave and a sine wave above 7kHz. Pigs Bum.
At a sampling rate of 96kHz you get 9.6 samples of a 10kHz wave and believe me, you can hear it.
In an article by Rupert Neve, I read recently, he said that we should aim for 24bit resolution and 192kHz sampling rate if we want to equal the quality of high quality analogue recording. We will get there. DVD is already up to 24 bit 96kHz sampling so we are on the way. But if your 16bit, 44.1kHz CD sounds bright, consider what makes it bright and you will see that it's a false bright created by the high frequencies sounding like square waves!!
guitarfreak12 said:it looks like that guy has no idea what he's talking about, frequency is to sampling rate as apples are to CARS!!
VSProductions said:96k or 44.1k you ask??
1)you are going to mixdown to 44.1 anyway.
2)DAW won't be able to handle as many tracks
3)computer's processor has to work harder.
4)you cant hear it.
i dont care what anyone says, when it's all said and done, you would never be able to hear the difference between a session recorded in 44.1, 48, 88, 96, 192, whatever. its going to be 44.1 anyways......
VSProductions said:its going to be 44.1 anyways......
bennychico11 said:Not in your situation. Especially not with a synth. The highest note on the synth wouldn't even come close to the highest reproducable frequency at 48kHz sampling rate. The highest note on a typical piano is C8 which is 4,186Hz. No where near the Nyquist Frequency of 24kHz.
Ford Van said:4 - Maybe YOU can't hear it, but, there are brilliant engineers who CAN! Nuf said. MANY engineers that are MUCH better than you and I can hear the difference. I can hear the difference. I don't know why you can't. Maybe a monitoring problem in your studio or something.
As a side note, sound quality improvement between 24 and 32 bit is very hard to discern.
Preferably, I would choose 88.2, since the downsampling to 44.1 is much simpler than with 96 or 48 since it only chops one sample out of two.
1) I'm talking about using 32bit float option instead of 24 bits.Reggie said:Where do you get these wonderful 32-bit convertors? Or are you referring to mixing down several 24bit files to a 32-bit mix?
Actually, most experts (not me) will tell you this is a myth. The math is much different than simply dividing a number in half. Otherwise sample rate conversion wouldn't be nearly as complicated a deal and there wouldn't be all these different brands and software programs that do it differently.
Reggie said:Cool ideas. But I'm curious what you used for SRC? It might be neat to compare something like Barbabatch vs a good hardware SRC. just to see if things can be any better. I'm all for a 60kHz sample rate, but I don't see it happening since so much 96k is in place.