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CavityCr33p

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Hello! I work with computers everyday (my job, hardware specialist), but this little problem is pissing me off.

In my DAW, I have a Terratec EWX2496 pci sound card. I've been using this as the primary soundcard for recording and playback. The problem with this Terratec card is that it has lousy drivers. If you are using a program that has the ASIO driver open, and you try to play a song using the directsound drivers, you get a directsound error. This has always been the case, and Ive see this discussed elsewhere. They said that the asio drivers arent properly released. Anyways.

Here is the problem. I do my guitars in Adobe Audition (2.0 now) using the EWX Asio drivers, using realtime monitoring with guitar rig vst. I use fruity loops with DFHS loaded using ASIO drivers as well. Usually, the process is like this.

I do my guitars first in audition, mixdown, and save as wav. Ideally, I would be able to then, open up Fruity, load up the DFHS vst (using the asio driver) and be able to play the wav on winamp, WMP, whaterver, while tracking the drums in Fruity.

This cant happen tho, because with this soundcard, you cant use directsound and ASIO at the same time. Im trying to figure out another process to do this with now. I enabled my onboard sound on the mobo, and was going to use this for playback, and the Terratex for recording. Well, that works, minus the fact that I cant hear anything being recorded because unless I switch the main playback device to the Terratec card.

Any ideas? I know I could start using Sonar, or cubase, and do both the drums and guitars there, but Im so comfortable with Audition.

Im completely lost.
 
Nobody?

I also have a M-audio 2496 I might end up using

The only prob with that is that I dont have the midi dongle and my onboard doesnt have a gameport.
 
Sounds like you have a horribly convoluted work flow there. I would recommend that you move up to a full featured DAW like sonar/cubase/traktion/PT since tht way you can stay in one environment.

As far as I know, most sound cards will not allow mutiple drivers to use the same device at once
 
CavityCr33p said:
Hello! I work with computers everyday (my job, hardware specialist), but this little problem is pissing me off.

In my DAW, I have a Terratec EWX2496 pci sound card. I've been using this as the primary soundcard for recording and playback. The problem with this Terratec card is that it has lousy drivers. If you are using a program that has the ASIO driver open, and you try to play a song using the directsound drivers, you get a directsound error. This has always been the case, and Ive see this discussed elsewhere. They said that the asio drivers arent properly released. Anyways.

Here is the problem. I do my guitars in Adobe Audition (2.0 now) using the EWX Asio drivers, using realtime monitoring with guitar rig vst. I use fruity loops with DFHS loaded using ASIO drivers as well. Usually, the process is like this.

I do my guitars first in audition, mixdown, and save as wav. Ideally, I would be able to then, open up Fruity, load up the DFHS vst (using the asio driver) and be able to play the wav on winamp, WMP, whaterver, while tracking the drums in Fruity.

This cant happen tho, because with this soundcard, you cant use directsound and ASIO at the same time. Im trying to figure out another process to do this with now. I enabled my onboard sound on the mobo, and was going to use this for playback, and the Terratex for recording. Well, that works, minus the fact that I cant hear anything being recorded because unless I switch the main playback device to the Terratec card.

Any ideas? I know I could start using Sonar, or cubase, and do both the drums and guitars there, but Im so comfortable with Audition.

Im completely lost.
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That sounds like a complete nightmare to me.

If you can't work smoothly in Audition, then what's the point of using it? The idea behind recording on th computer was that it would help streamline the way the system worked.
In your case, it's making it WAY WAY more harder than it should be.

I went back to college and took all of the recording courses available. I hadn't used the PC for anything more than 2 track conversion for burning CD's. I used a Wav program to edit out anything before or after my audio began, and just used the software as a light form of what you could call "pre-mastering" before putting it on CD.

Once in school, I had to get used to the Mac's they had and the software was Logic Pro 7.0.

Logic Pro 7.0 changed my entire weltanschauung - which means "world view" or "philosophy of life" - regarding recording and PC's. I always saw PC's as a necessary evil for recording at home - at least in regards to cleaning up the audio and buring a CD to listen to, or CER's to give to friends, etc.

Because, like you, I had to swap from this, to that, to the other kind of software to be able to do what I wanted - and it was a big pain in the a$$.

Do yourself a favor, and move up to a better software package.

Then, ASAP, go for a firewire In/Out unit rather than the soundcard.

It will make a MAJOR difference in how your recording go for you.

I never had considered a Firewire in/out because I hadn't had a PC with Firewire on it.

The diffeence between the Firewire type of units and the soundcard style is like night and day to me.



Tim
 
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