One question I do have is how much ram is needed to disable the swap/virtual memory? Because windows doesn't manage this correctly regardless of version.
Yeah. You mentioned you were experiencing pops and clicks, but your figures were actually well within the limits of what the devs of that program thought was adequate. Just wondering how much the "good enough" numbers vary between different systems.
Also, in your case (even though you said it now works well) I would take a look and possibly tweak your virtual memory settings. You might be able to get rid of those page faults.
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I've tinkered with this... and with a system using a SSD I didn't see as much benefit compared to one running the OS/swap on a platter drive.
You'll need as much as you expect the PC to ever swap. I'd say double the RAM you would normally use [this is what I did], and of course keeping in mind when you max out your memory your OS will likely freeze. In the times I've tinkered with this configuration I never ran out of memory but always stayed well within the total memory I had.
Fwiw, I let windows manage my swap file now (Win 7 x64) and don't really find it to be an issue. System has been running this install for a couple years and is largely glitch free (music production is definitely glitch free), so with a SSD any 'loss' real or perceived in having windows use this caching doesn't seem to materialize in any performance degradation.
with an ssd it will be as fas as the controller can be serviced. Let's take an example of one of my machines, it has 16GB of ram. Do I really need windows to swap 1.6gb on the disk? When I turn swap off there is no bad side effects. Why have it on in the first place?
Now on my 8gb machine I noticed that it does degrade a little, but if I take and use a ram drive software solution, set up a 2gb partition in ram, and move the swap, tmp, and temp, and internet cache environments to the ram drive, I get a performance boost, and it keeps up with 16 @ 192Khz simultaneous tracking at a latency of 3.6ms (using a dante card) The Latency with a software ram solution is in the nano-seconds because its working at the ram frequeny and access times. Compared to a system that has a ssd as swap, its faster because of this.
the first test failed. I was getting clicks render for my vids. once I changed my settings and updated some drivers, it showed everything good. I will look into the page fault when I get back in town.
Your LatencyMon results still don't look so good man. Running on my system for 30 minutes myself. Those pagefaults are disturbing.
I'll post a screenshot here in a bit.
Those page fault latencies are typical for a machine running a combination of software raid/hard drive controller, indexing, and malware/antivirus. Removing all anti-malware and virus scanning will clear it in most cases. But the problem with software hard drive controllers (weather they are in raid or not) is they take cpu time away to cue the file and output it to the cpu/memory on top of the time it transfers the data. You see, when software controllers do that, it takes an extra round trip of polling the irq to get the same data off the hard drive a real controller does in half the time. Even if you have an x99 chipset, if you use a software controller, it still going to be slow because of this. Unfortunately, you really have to look for real hard drive controllers that are integrated on the motherboards, and its getting more of the norm to install a card if you need hard drive performance of any real significance, and now these days it will be SAS based.
Ok, so I didn't have any 'page faults' until I opened the 'snipping tool'. Neither with Cubase running or not. The Highest measured interrupt was also peaked at this point when opening the snipping tool. That would be Windows taking over it seems. It is inconsistent as It never goes over 5 bars without opening the snipping tool. Cubase open/playing or not.
My system is built for running audio and 3 video monitors. Nothing else. Well, internet is connected but browser not opened. I only use it for occasional file transfer/export or software downloads/updates. Never for Windows updates. Here are the results: