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Sounds like you speak from experience.

Should we be looking at replacing these crap transformers with good ones at this point? That can't be THAT big a job.

If you were looking to be an a-hole, there would be no need. Of course we are all looking for these to be fuctional. The guys who say they work great are using them on ultra loud sources (drums, cabs etc). Almost all of the "awesome" comments disclaim that they are only usable on LOUD sources...

It's absolutely clear that this is a universal failure in design. Expecting a functional unit is unlikely. It would amount to the Chinese accidentally manufacturing a functioning circuit. In other words, accidentally winning the lottery.

Steve, we're still what appears to be a long way from these being serviceable. So in a way, none of us really have the pres yet. I'd wait it out if I were you. You really haven't missed anything.

Well Bill. I thank you kindly for your generous offer. I do feel like I'm too deep to pull out at this point. Hoping for a solution that I won't have to go to trade school for. If it's a complicated fix though, I'd be looking at dumping 4 - 84s. But if it's complicated, I get the feeling that...

Not sure what you're going for here but no. After the experts suss out the issues, we'll all have to fix them ourselves. That will involve me having to essentially learn how to perform complicated repairs on audio equipment. I will have to purchase the equipment to make those repairs. W paid...

I just want to make sure that you understand that my anger is directed towards the manufacturer alone. I really feel like they screwed us over.

"Buy at your own risk - we have no idea whether this product will even turn on once it arrives. It may be missing parts, incorrectly assembled, possess disconnected cables, and it will NOT have been tested in any way prior to shipping." Well said V. I can promise you that, without a doubt...

Nope. Same pre. The 81 just has more issues. They are ALL teaming with multiple issues but the 81 has the most.

Wow. Yaw wicked smart.

I think Alan knew a lot about these and seemed to speak knowledgeably about the design. It was openly stated that these were designed by Chance and his Neve guy and I totally believe that. The fact is that these are VERY close to the Neve design. What would make sense here is that both are...

So the numbers 73, 84 and 81 are just a coincidence? C'mon dude.

Yeah. These should have been sold as projects. They really weren't. If there was a stipulation that these were going to need serious work to function correctly, I would have thought twice before ordering 8 of them, as would a bunch of other members. I don't have a ton of experience with...

Looking forward to hearing that.

Thanks Dr. Good advice all around.

You're right Bill. I definitely get caught up in the discussion and I range from being really disappointed to very psyched without even hearing them. It's stupid of me. I know you say that no pre is right for everything but what about all those amazing records we listen to in amazement that...

From what I've read, the 1200 REALLY need to be burned in for a good 12 hours or so. After that, the nasal thinness(that has been reported before) dissappears and the mic sounds beautiful. Give that a shot.

That's what I was thinking. The Alan Hyatt thing. If these things were the greatest sounding, value pres around, I'm thinking that Alan would have been all over these as well. I think it sounded, at first, like these were designed just for us, but Alan had proved that he had seen these and...

Just to overkill this a little more, 1. the "Output gain" (all the way to the right, next to the meter) should be maxed? 2. The "input gain" (all the way to the left) is used to get closest to where you need to get and back the "output gain" off to taste? This would be the approach to get the...