VomitHatSteve
Hat STYLE. Not contents.
I think we need to add a "bicker about time signatures until Rami posts a recording of himself counting" sub-forum.
I just realized how catchy that riff is. I can't get it out of my head. It reminds me of some Mahavishnu Orchestra stuff. Very haunting. I'd actually like to hear the rest of the tune now.
OK, I was bored.
Here's me counting over this tune to what I think is 7/4.
That's the way I count it too. It's just that you're counting them as quarter notes, and I'm counting them as 8th notes. So I'm hearing the hats as 16th notes.
I can tell you why I'm counting it that way: because of his count off (you're doubling the tempo of his count if you're counting those as quarter notes) and because of the placement of the snare, which first falls on beat 2.
Neither way is more right, per se, but like I said, IF you assume that he's counting quarter notes during the count-off, which is the case the vast majority of the time, then the hats are 16ths.
You're absolutely right. Except that I'm not putting a lot of importance on his count. I'm not even sure what his count is all about because it almost has nothing to do with the actual song. For that reason, I "think" I'm counting quarter notes.
I agree. I added a sentence to my post.Yeah, you're right; his count is terrible. But to me it's much closer to quarters than half notes, so that's what I went with.
Yeah, you're right; his count is terrible. But to me it's much closer to quarters than half notes, so that's what I went with.
It's progressive rock man...that jacked up count was part of the song.
I thought I'd throw this one out again, with the main riff isolated acoustically.
Notice if you count the beat like RAMI did with 7 quarter notes, that second base note falls on a weak beat of the count. If you count quickly as 7 eighth notes, you catch that strong bass note on the 1.
Now try to count as I do
ONE TWO THREE half ONE TWO THREE half ONE TWO THREE half ONE TWO THREE half
and it fits quite nicely.
I'm going to coin 3½ / 4 as my signature time signature.
Cheers
Brian
Miroslav -
This is how it flowed out of me without any preconceived idea that I was going to compose something in 7. I actually think it would lose some special sauce to try and straighten it out into 4/4. If you hear it solo acoustic it has a nice flow. I think the various drumming issues may throw it off for some people.
It's actually a bit tricky to play...try it!
Brian
U da man, RAMI!...It's amazing how people can complicate the issue until you realize that all you need to do is simply COUNT. Time signatures take a bout 4 seconds to figure out if you just....COUNT.
12 pages of discussion with people over-dissecting where accents and 16th notes fall. All of that is irrelevant. Just....COUNT. It really is that simple.
U da man, RAMI!