help. recording volume problem. asio driver related.
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bouldersoundguy
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Turn down the analog input gain on your audio interface, not the digital one in Windows. You need to get the level right going in. By the time Windows level controls can affect the signal it's too late.
What interface are you using?
What interface are you using?
bouldersoundguy
Well-known member
What audio interface hardware are you using?
If the answer is "The stock sound card my computer came with" then you need to consider getting a proper audio interface. It will have the features you need for recording that the sound card lacks, including analog input gain controls and input monitoring.
If the answer is "The stock sound card my computer came with" then you need to consider getting a proper audio interface. It will have the features you need for recording that the sound card lacks, including analog input gain controls and input monitoring.
bouldersoundguy
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yes it the sound card my hp laptop came with.
so what exactly is an audio interface??
and is there no way i can reduce the input volume from inside adobe audition? may be some plugin or some setting?
There are several ways you might reduce the level after the signal is in the computer, but then it might be too late to prevent clipping. You'll just have a clipped signal at a lower level.
An audio interface is an audio input/output device like a sound card but with more features for recording such as gain controls that let you adjust the level of an incoming signal and some provision for listening to the input as it's happening. There's a ton of info on this forum on the subject.
gecko zzed
Grumpy Mod
If you are using your computer's internal soundcard, you should have a control panel or something that will reduce the input level. However, depending on how it works it may not be able to do anything if the input signal is just too strong for the input circuitry.
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
Okay, some basics here.
You can't turn down the input gain in Audition because, by the time the audio reaches Audition, your computer has already converted it to a digital signal and any clipping from high gain is already done.
Second, how exactly have you switched to ASIO? Not many built in sound cards come with suitable ASIO drivers. Assuming it's a Realtek or similar in your HP, it'll have MME drivers and you must be using some third party drivers. That could be your problem.
Third, how to set levels (sort of): Assuming you're on Windows Vista or 7, open your Windows audio control panel. Go to Recording Devices. Select the input you're using, probably Microphone or whatever. This'll open another window with tabs across the top--click the one labelled "Levels" and adjust the two sliders. However, be aware that, even at this point, you're adjusting the digital conversion so if things are overloaded at the input you're still out of luck.
Fourth: An Audio Interface is a proper device for recording use (as opposed to built in sound cards which are for Skype phone calls and playing back videos. There are FAQs about these in the newbie forum--but you'll probably want one with a USB output and a knob on the front to adjust input gain.
You can't turn down the input gain in Audition because, by the time the audio reaches Audition, your computer has already converted it to a digital signal and any clipping from high gain is already done.
Second, how exactly have you switched to ASIO? Not many built in sound cards come with suitable ASIO drivers. Assuming it's a Realtek or similar in your HP, it'll have MME drivers and you must be using some third party drivers. That could be your problem.
Third, how to set levels (sort of): Assuming you're on Windows Vista or 7, open your Windows audio control panel. Go to Recording Devices. Select the input you're using, probably Microphone or whatever. This'll open another window with tabs across the top--click the one labelled "Levels" and adjust the two sliders. However, be aware that, even at this point, you're adjusting the digital conversion so if things are overloaded at the input you're still out of luck.
Fourth: An Audio Interface is a proper device for recording use (as opposed to built in sound cards which are for Skype phone calls and playing back videos. There are FAQs about these in the newbie forum--but you'll probably want one with a USB output and a knob on the front to adjust input gain.
i downloaded asio4all and audition had an option to switch. the recording quality is great with asio also latency is gone.
i know about the control panel levels setting. and usually it works but not with asio. because asio operates only in audition.
so is no other way to reduce the input volume?
i know about the control panel levels setting. and usually it works but not with asio. because asio operates only in audition.
so is no other way to reduce the input volume?
bouldersoundguy
Well-known member
There's probably an ASIO driver settings menu somewhere in Audition, but that's still too late to fix clipping at the input.
UNLESS there's some way to make ASIO turn off the mic boost. Switching mic boost off in Windows doesn't help because that's does it in the MME driver rather than the ASIO driver you made Audition use.
UNLESS there's some way to make ASIO turn off the mic boost. Switching mic boost off in Windows doesn't help because that's does it in the MME driver rather than the ASIO driver you made Audition use.
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
Okay. Asio4All isn't a true ASIO driver--it's a very useful wrapper that makes MME devices appear as ASIO to programmes like Audition.
As such, the standard Windows setting should still work--I just tried it on my copy of Audition CS6 and it works that way.
The control panel Bouldersoundguy mentions is in Audition on the Edit/Preferences/Audio Hardware menu. Next to where it says ASIO4ALL there's a Settings button that takes you to the ASIO4ALL control panel. On the left hand side of that screen you should see your internal sound card listed with buttons to select which input on your sound card is in use.
However, if you go to the standard Windows audio panel, select recording devices then the input you want to use, the "Levels" tab still works and the slider there still affects the levels. FYI, on my Toshiba laptop I can also adjust this with function keys or a knob on the front of the laptop--dunno if HP have similar features.
As BSG says, that'll adjust the levels in the digital domain but if there's distortion from the analogue input, it'll still be there even if your levels look low enough. You'll find a huge quality increase if you invest in a USB audio interface and do things properly.
As such, the standard Windows setting should still work--I just tried it on my copy of Audition CS6 and it works that way.
The control panel Bouldersoundguy mentions is in Audition on the Edit/Preferences/Audio Hardware menu. Next to where it says ASIO4ALL there's a Settings button that takes you to the ASIO4ALL control panel. On the left hand side of that screen you should see your internal sound card listed with buttons to select which input on your sound card is in use.
However, if you go to the standard Windows audio panel, select recording devices then the input you want to use, the "Levels" tab still works and the slider there still affects the levels. FYI, on my Toshiba laptop I can also adjust this with function keys or a knob on the front of the laptop--dunno if HP have similar features.
As BSG says, that'll adjust the levels in the digital domain but if there's distortion from the analogue input, it'll still be there even if your levels look low enough. You'll find a huge quality increase if you invest in a USB audio interface and do things properly.
yes there is a control panel but there is no option for adjusting the volume there.
the problem is that asio does not respond to any changes i make in the windows volume control.
asio keeps playing at and recording at one particular level (which is too loud).
funny thing is that the windows sliders are working for others.
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
Frankly, in your case I'd just go back to the MME driver then. With a standard built in sound card, there's very little advantage for you anyway. Or invest in a proper audio interface, preferably with its own ASIO drivers.
If you really think you must use ASIO4ALL the only thing I can suggest is to uninstall and reinstall it in case there was a bug in your installation.
For bouldersoundguy...ASIO4ALL isn't a true ASIO driver--it's a wrapper for making MME devices LOOK like ASIO for devices that need it. As such, the various controls on the Windows Audio Controller should still work and just feed the results via ASIO4ALL--and they certainly do for me--I just tried again and still all is fine.
If you really think you must use ASIO4ALL the only thing I can suggest is to uninstall and reinstall it in case there was a bug in your installation.
For bouldersoundguy...ASIO4ALL isn't a true ASIO driver--it's a wrapper for making MME devices LOOK like ASIO for devices that need it. As such, the various controls on the Windows Audio Controller should still work and just feed the results via ASIO4ALL--and they certainly do for me--I just tried again and still all is fine.
asio4all is making a big difference in the quality and latency. which is why i'm putting up so much other crap its giving me.
i will try re installing it.
i recall my pc asked me " do you want to reinstal this program with recommended settings?" and i said yes.
i guess i should have said no.
i will try re installing it.
i recall my pc asked me " do you want to reinstal this program with recommended settings?" and i said yes.
i guess i should have said no.
Bobbsy
Boring Old Git
ASIO4ALL shouldn't make a single bit of difference in quality. All it does is provide a different control system for exactly the same audio card you already have. Latency it can help...but not as much as going to a specialist audio interface since it still has to work within the constraints of the MME sound card. You can often achieve the same results by closing down any background rubbish running on your computer and playing with the MME latency settings.
And, to repeat, the REAL solution is a different interface preferably with direct hardware monitoring. Besides helping with latency, the quality gain over a built in sound card will be dramatic.
And, to repeat, the REAL solution is a different interface preferably with direct hardware monitoring. Besides helping with latency, the quality gain over a built in sound card will be dramatic.
jimmys69
MOODerator
It might work, but not efficiently, like you hope it to....
Sorry, it is just not worthy for quality recording in most cases...