Harvey Gerst
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Sal,
Your comments are indeed very disturbing to me, since Behringer sells these as reference mics and they are supposed to be fairly neutral sounding and accurate. So when I read your comments, it does bother me and all the comments about "trusting Harvey's ears" don't mean shit if those are accurate results you're getting.
A few questions, though. Were all the mics in EXACTLY the same spot in the room when you tested them? Remember that omnis pick up a lot of the "room sound" and even a few inches will change the response in an uneven room. 4 feet out is a pretty significant distance and the room will definitely be a big part of the sound.
Also, were these run into different preamp channels for the test, or did you use the same channel for each mic, to asure consistency? When I record groups, I use the board preamps, but when I'm testing mics, I use the Great River MP-2 because both channels are absolutely identical, and calibrated. You might try switching the mics around to different channels and see if the differences stay with the mic or the channel.
I'm at a loss to explain your results, but some of it MAY be caused by the above factors.
Your comment regarding sensitivity is right on. A small condenser mic will not have as much output as a large condenser mic - that's why they make the larger condenser mics. But the ECM8000's that I have are way more sensitive than the Audix TR-40's that they copied. I run my trim controls at 7 o'clock for the Behringers as opposed to around 10 o'clock for the Audix.
Your comments are indeed very disturbing to me, since Behringer sells these as reference mics and they are supposed to be fairly neutral sounding and accurate. So when I read your comments, it does bother me and all the comments about "trusting Harvey's ears" don't mean shit if those are accurate results you're getting.
A few questions, though. Were all the mics in EXACTLY the same spot in the room when you tested them? Remember that omnis pick up a lot of the "room sound" and even a few inches will change the response in an uneven room. 4 feet out is a pretty significant distance and the room will definitely be a big part of the sound.
Also, were these run into different preamp channels for the test, or did you use the same channel for each mic, to asure consistency? When I record groups, I use the board preamps, but when I'm testing mics, I use the Great River MP-2 because both channels are absolutely identical, and calibrated. You might try switching the mics around to different channels and see if the differences stay with the mic or the channel.
I'm at a loss to explain your results, but some of it MAY be caused by the above factors.
Your comment regarding sensitivity is right on. A small condenser mic will not have as much output as a large condenser mic - that's why they make the larger condenser mics. But the ECM8000's that I have are way more sensitive than the Audix TR-40's that they copied. I run my trim controls at 7 o'clock for the Behringers as opposed to around 10 o'clock for the Audix.