Remove vocals?
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LiquidBronze
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its virtually impossible to totally remove vocals
on a rendered track
(one can eq and all that jazz but there will still be traces for sure)
i could be wrong but i dont know of any way in any program
peace
LB
its virtually impossible to totally remove vocals
on a rendered track
(one can eq and all that jazz but there will still be traces for sure)
i could be wrong but i dont know of any way in any program
peace
LB
remove vocals
I don't think you can do it in sound forge. i believe there are software plug ins...or maybe just separate hardware components that allow you to do this sort of thing. But as the last person said...i believe its something they do with the eq....but i'm not positive of their methods.
I don't think you can do it in sound forge. i believe there are software plug ins...or maybe just separate hardware components that allow you to do this sort of thing. But as the last person said...i believe its something they do with the eq....but i'm not positive of their methods.
Blue Bear Sound
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You wire one channel out of polarity and sum it to mono -- this way all center-channel information is cancelled-out... you can use EQ and filters to remove even more, but because bass and other percussion is also center-channel, you will also loose a lot of bottom-end....
In many cases, the remaining audio is fairly unusable.......!
In many cases, the remaining audio is fairly unusable.......!
Osbick Bird
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I've never tried it (my problem is usually getting vocals into the music!), but the guy at www.analogx.com has a directX plug in that supposedly does this--probably just a algorithm that performs the polarity trick Blue Bear Sound is talking about.
The plug in is free of charge, so it might be worth a look.
The plug in is free of charge, so it might be worth a look.
Hi Prancer,
I wrote an article on this topic called 'Eliminating the Lead Vocal' for issue #10 of DigiFreq. You can download the issue for free at:
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/issues.asp
Regards,
Scott
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http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
I wrote an article on this topic called 'Eliminating the Lead Vocal' for issue #10 of DigiFreq. You can download the issue for free at:
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/issues.asp
Regards,
Scott
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Scott R. Garrigus - Author of Cakewalk, Sound Forge and Sound Forge 6, SONAR and SONAR 2 Power! books; Publisher of DigiFreq. Win a free copy of PlayPro Interactive Guitar and learn more cool music technology tips and techniques by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... go to:
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
MartyMcFly
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They had something about this on The Screen Savers on techTV. Leo Laporte ran thru it....go to their website and look fi it.
SPINSTERWUN
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What's up, Scott? I haven't seen you around these parts in about a moon age. 
Hey Spinsterwun,
Yeah, just been super busy with the book projects, the DigiFreq newsletter, and spending a lot of time answering many of the posts on my own discussion board:
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/discuss.asp
But I'm trying to start making the rounds to other boards once in a while again.
Regards,
Scott
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Scott R. Garrigus - Author of Cakewalk, Sound Forge and Sound Forge 6, SONAR and SONAR 2 Power! books; Publisher of DigiFreq. Win a free copy of PlayPro Interactive Guitar and learn more cool music technology tips and techniques by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... go to:
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
Yeah, just been super busy with the book projects, the DigiFreq newsletter, and spending a lot of time answering many of the posts on my own discussion board:
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/discuss.asp
But I'm trying to start making the rounds to other boards once in a while again.
Regards,
Scott
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Scott R. Garrigus - Author of Cakewalk, Sound Forge and Sound Forge 6, SONAR and SONAR 2 Power! books; Publisher of DigiFreq. Win a free copy of PlayPro Interactive Guitar and learn more cool music technology tips and techniques by getting a FREE subscription to DigiFreq... go to:
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/
SPINSTERWUN
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garrigus said:
1. ...Yeah, just been super busy with the book projects, the DigiFreq newsletter, and spending a lot of time answering many of the posts on my own discussion board:
http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/discuss.asp
2. But I'm trying to start making the rounds to other boards once in a while again.
1. Yeah, I know that you're the, MAN.
2. That's a good thing. I hope that you prosper in your endeavors, I know that you will.....
Peace....
MONTE
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http://www.directxfiles.com/manufacturers/analogx_voc.htm
Here's the link to the analogx plug Osbick Bird was talkin about. It may or may not work for you depending on how the song was mixed.
Here's the link to the analogx plug Osbick Bird was talkin about. It may or may not work for you depending on how the song was mixed.
Chewie
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As far as I know...
There are hardware units which remove vocals. That's how Karaoke machines work. I believe they do the same thing as the plug-ins which is invert one channel and put it on top the other. But these machines seem to do a much better job. I used to use DeFX for vocal removal. It is a plug-in for Winamp 2.x but it might have a DirectX version. I liked this one because it had a couple adjustments to play with the vocal removal. But in general I find it is virtually impossible to remove vocals perfectly from a track. Because with vocal removal you eliminate the centre channel. This would mean that the vocal would have to panned exactly in the centre. This is usually the case but verb and backup vocals also screw things up. This is because backing vocals are usually panned. But this great if you want to just remove the lead vocal. Another thing is stereo reverb. When this is used you lose the lead vocal but the vocal "echos" are still kept. So balads are a poor canidate for vocal removal. But songs with straight, dry vocals work good. Try removing the vocals on My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion and Treat Her Like A Lady - Celine Dion and you will see what I mean.
There are hardware units which remove vocals. That's how Karaoke machines work. I believe they do the same thing as the plug-ins which is invert one channel and put it on top the other. But these machines seem to do a much better job. I used to use DeFX for vocal removal. It is a plug-in for Winamp 2.x but it might have a DirectX version. I liked this one because it had a couple adjustments to play with the vocal removal. But in general I find it is virtually impossible to remove vocals perfectly from a track. Because with vocal removal you eliminate the centre channel. This would mean that the vocal would have to panned exactly in the centre. This is usually the case but verb and backup vocals also screw things up. This is because backing vocals are usually panned. But this great if you want to just remove the lead vocal. Another thing is stereo reverb. When this is used you lose the lead vocal but the vocal "echos" are still kept. So balads are a poor canidate for vocal removal. But songs with straight, dry vocals work good. Try removing the vocals on My Heart Will Go On - Celine Dion and Treat Her Like A Lady - Celine Dion and you will see what I mean.
Chewie
New member
Btw
I forgot to mention that all of the plug-ins I've used for vocal removal all sound the same. This includes the one from AnalogX. Did I mention that that guy is so cool?
Except for the DeFX one. Because of the adjustments it has but I guess they would just amount to tweaking with your EQ. I have Sound Forge and I believe in Channel Converter there is a preset for vocal removal.
I forgot to mention that all of the plug-ins I've used for vocal removal all sound the same. This includes the one from AnalogX. Did I mention that that guy is so cool?
Except for the DeFX one. Because of the adjustments it has but I guess they would just amount to tweaking with your EQ. I have Sound Forge and I believe in Channel Converter there is a preset for vocal removal.