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    We've explored various ways of exporting data from the VF-16 like SCSI out to Zip to
    PC, SCSI out to DVD-RAM (Per Maggie Watson@ Fostex:Only the Panasonic external DVD-RAM is
    compatible and that goes for more than twice the Ceative Labs one!!!!) etc.
    The aforementioned Ms.Watson says that you can use the S/PDIF out right to a soundcard on your PC with an S/PDIF optical input that supports 2-track digital format. This will carry the 2-track stereo mix. Just get the mix right on the VF-16 and burn a CD master!
    (Still theoretical,but I think we might be onto something this time.)

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    mic98, I love that enthusiasm of yours. I was reasonably sure that you could get audio onto a CD this way, or use the same connection to a home audio type CD recorder, but the remaining problem is needing a place to store song data when the unit's hard drive fills up. I spoke to fostex today also and asked if they had any plans for a CD burner of thier own or some other solution. The answer was, in a word, no.

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    twelvdrmz,
    I'm not surprised that Fostex isn't gonna make a CD-burner. The solution now seems to
    be to get a soundcard with S/PDIF (my soundblaster doesn't have one),an internal CD-burner like the Microboards professional or one of the Tascams. I just hope they come with the appropriate software to read the incoming mix & write it to CD.
    As for storing data from the VF-16, the 5.1 gig hard drive it comes with will hold an hour of 16 track info. I figure once I get a song sounding how I want, I'll mix it down &
    if it's not right on the CD I'll keep tweaking until it is, then burn a CD & keep it as the master recording. Then I won't worry about overwriting it on the hard drive;
    it's already in the can.
    I'd pay a hundred bucks right now for a "VF-16 for Dummies" book!

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    mic98, do your self a favor and stay clear of the Phillips CD burner. I had one for a week and got rid of it (I thought it was a boat anchor). It only writes on CD-RAs which cost about $4 or $5 last time I checked. Get your self a computer based CD burner, a card with S/PDIF ins and outs and something like SoundForge XP or CEP. Then you just record the stereo output of your multi track into the computer as a wave file and you can edit the two track files (mute the quiet parts, fade stuff in and out, etc...)and then burn the CDs right from the hard drive, no problem. Like I said, I had a Phillips and it was a pain in the ass.

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    Just wanted to say that I'm now abandoning the idea of S/PDIF out to soundcard on PC to
    PC's CD burner and am looking at stand-alone
    CD recorders like the Philips CDR775. It goes for about $450, much less than a soundcard with an optical input and a CD burner; it has dual trays for duplication. I've e-mailed Fostex re:compatibility but if anyone knows why this wouldn't work I'd be interested in hearing it.

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    how bout this...i look in the paper and see 30 gig hard drives going for as low as $139. When you fill up the VF-16's 5 meg hard drive, can you remove it, still have the song data saved on it (if you ever want to reinstall it to do a remix or something) and pop in a new 30 gig hard drive for 6 hours more recording time? And if so, wont I probably end up with a drive thats much quieter (mechanically) than the one in there now? That thing makes a racket....a hot condenser's gonna pick it up.

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    I placed my order for a VF-16 today(!) based on the following... Fostex says yes, when your hard drive fills up you can install a new one and always go back and reinstall the old one if you want to rework an old tune. The VF-16 will accept up to a 30gig hard drive. They reccommend the Quantum brand Fireball LCT series or the Fireball Plus LM series. 30 gig Quantums run $200-280 in the catalogs, hopefully a little cheaper online somewhere (any reccomendations?). They couldnt tell me if the Quantums will be any quieter but jeez, I'd like to get recording already! I'll probably end up with a harman/kardon CDR-2 consumer deck to burn CDs. I spend too much time in front of a PC already and the hk is a nicer piece of hardware than the Phillips.

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    Twelvdrmz, any good tips on where to purchase the VF16? I've contacted the usual suspects (AMS, Musicnsfrnd, Zzounds etc) and no one has it in stock.

    AS for burning to a consumer CD deck, I currently have the Phillips single deck home recorder... works rather well with the digital ins and outs (with my current setup using the BR-8), and I agree that I spend too much time in front of a PC anyway to go the PC route.

    Also, where as the blank CD's needed to record on the Phillips were in the $4-$5 range (a piece), I've found in my local wholesale club store (Costco) a ten pack for $10.35. That's very close to the .70 cents you can get the other blank CD's for!


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    Ranchfield, www.ktjmusic.com has the VF-16 for $999.99 - don't know if shipping is extra. you have to e-mail them and you get an instant reply for the price. Other stuff in that site seems decently priced also. http://www.ktjmusic.com/cgi-bin/quik...&keywords=VF16

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    I appreciate the information about sending a .wav file to a PC via the S/PDIF port.

    But does anyone know if there is a way to get .wav files to the pc without mixing everything down to stereo? I'd like to move all the tracks to a pc and use CoolEdit or something similar for editing. With everything mixed to stereo, as I understand it, you would only have two tracks to edit on a pc. Applying reverb, for instance, would apply reverb to all the instruments on the track.

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