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    I have been a massive Cubase fan currently using Cubase Artist 8.5 atm and love the way it looks and the ease of how it is but I guess it helps using it after all these years. My audio processor is the 11rack (I also have a focusrite 6i6 but that's boxed up). I've noticed the sound popping and cutting out and the vst performance was going ape ****. Even the meter on the play/stop bar is moving up and down and I'm not even doing anything. So I upgraded my pc from amd (and this will make you laugh) to...... Asus H370-F, Intel i7 8700, 16gb ddr4 and it still does the same. I even tried the focusrite and its the same. Turning off hyper threading helped a little and turning the buffer up helped but the meters are still moving halfway up. Does Reaper have this issue? Should I wave goodbye to Cubase? I heard something about Reaper and midi being a issue? I'm really getting depressed with all this recording lark.

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    It's not Cubase - it's your computer. With Windows 10 the current version 9.5 pro uses less resources than 8.5 and 9 and is more stable, but those big processor spikes are your computer doing something - what, I don't know, but something you also have running in the background is probably the cause. Easy to blame the software, but it will be something else. If you tried a different computer then have a think about what is common? Slow drives, having audio on the C drive - that kind of thing. Cubase itself is unlikely to the the culprit, although it could be in conflict with something else. On my machines I have never had to adjust buffer sizes or turn off hyper threading.

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    Can you confirm where the two meters are on vst performance on your system? Are they stable or moving when you are doing nothing? If Steinberg can't get Cubase to work with Windows 10 after all these years, they really have gone down hill. I'll repost part of my comment into the Cubase section. I mainly wanted to know if Reaper was more stable.

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    Here's a screenshot - loads of audio tracks on the go, some VST instruments and the meter hardly ticking over. The computer spec is i7-4790-3-6GHz 16GB RAM Windows 10
    Honestly - Cubase is not your problem.
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    What audio processor do you use and buffer size? Also what is the latency at with your settings? It's possible that the 11 rack could be the issue. Without looking I know my buffer size was around 700ish and the latency around 8. System wise we aren't a million miles from each other expect I'm using a 8th gen intel and possibly ddr4?

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    You had two threads going for the same topic. I deleted the other one and will respond here.

    Buffer settings, I missed where you said you set them higher. I don't usually use the 2i2 and so I had to hook it up to see what was what. The buffer said 10ms, which I find a little misleading. The input latency was 22ms and the output was 23ms. I always thought of buffer settings as the value of number of samples being buffered at one time.

    I checked my VST performance meter and while doing nothing it was at about 40%. Win7-64 with Cubase 7.5. go figure. But it doesn't seem to really affect the overall performance. I never glitch or cut-out.

    Honestly, I'm kinda souring on Steinberg software. recently been having so many problems with plug-in folders and the software not finding my plugs.

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    I've never had an issue in Reaper that wasn't directly attributable to bad hardware or bad device drivers. Enough people happily use Cubase that I can't imagine that it's a software fault. Maybe Steinberg has drifted out of compliance with modern hardware/software standards, but I kinda doubt that. I'd have to agree that you've got something funky going on with your hardware/firmware/software somewhere. I had a finicky motherboard a few years ago that made my life living hell with audio and video devices.

    I've been using Win10 on a few different desktop computers since it was released with no major issues. I've got a Ryzen 7 1700 machine that's been a media creation beast, an Intel i7 4790K machine, and lately an Intel i3 8100 machine that have all been happy with Reaper and Win10. No glitches, crackles, pops, stutters, dropouts, etc. Even with tiny ASIO buffers and relatively demanding projects with all sorts of VSTi and VST plugins running.

    What does DPC Latency Checker tell you when you run it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chili View Post
    You had two threads going for the same topic. I deleted the other one and will respond here
    I had two threads because one was edited about Cubase under "Cubase" and the other was telling people about my issue and if Reaper was any better under "Reaper". I did mention this in my comments. The helps is appreciated but I did want to cover both bases and not look like I'm discounting Cubase altogether.

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    Cubase 9.5 is the best yet, so no. Maybe upgrade your computer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nola View Post
    Cubase 9.5 is the best yet, so no. Maybe upgrade your computer.
    He's running an i7 8700 on an 370 chipset! WTF is he going to upgrade to? He's running Cubase, not modeling weather predictions.

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