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    Quote Originally Posted by Tadpui View Post
    He's running an i7 8700 on an 370 chipset! WTF is he going to upgrade to? He's running Cubase, not modeling weather predictions.
    Sorry, I missed that part.
    I'm not sure what's going on, but I run 9.5 on my 6 year old laptop (I7 and 16GB of RAM also) and it runs perfectly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nola View Post
    Cubase 9.5 is the best yet, so no. Maybe upgrade your computer.
    No offence but my pc is brand new and only recently built myself. I stated what it was but just incase you skipped that part......
    Benq GL2450 Monitor
    Fractal Design R5 white case
    OCZ-ZS 750w
    Asus Rog Strix H370-F Gaming
    Intel I7 8700 (8th gen)
    Corsair Vengeance ddr4 16gb
    EVGA 1060 6gb

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    Didn't realise you replied page 2. Now my big problem with people saying 9 or 9.5 is better is that I paid a lot of money for Cubase Artist 8 when it was first released. I paid further money to upgrade to Artist 8.5 when it was released. And now I'm told to upgrade even more? You have to understand that this swapping and changing versions is putting me off recording altogether. Best thing I can do is post some images later on to see if everyone agrees I either have a issue or I'm not doing something right. My first to do will be a factory restore of my 11 rack and then I can discount that.
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    Yeah ignore my post I didn't read that you had a new PC. 8.5 should be fast on that computer. Cubase has awful tech support, but you can try their forum. It's pretty good for tips.
    Run a computer cleaning like Ccleaner to make sure you don't have junk bogging you down, too.

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    We're in the Reaper section, so this is getting a bit confusing, but Steinberg have had Cubase an awfully long time now, and the others are not really newcomers. I started with Cubase on an Atari 500 series in black and white with a new fangled invention called a mouse. Constant upgrading is a fact of life, and with great respect, NOT upgrading is dangerous, because while you don't risk being an unpaid bug finder, you also risk a sudden total failure when Windows or Apple suddenly make a tiny change. 9.5 is the most stable it's been for years. I can't remember how much I paid, probably a hundred quid? The alternative is a subscription model. It's just how it is. It is never going to be buy and use for ever. I'm convinced your problem is not Cubase. I don't know Reaper, never ever used it, but I do know that installing some new software can undo things you don't expect. A friend had Cubase elements 8.5, but on one Windows update his Lexicon interface suddenly wouldn't talk to it any longer, yet was happy playing Windows sounds? The Lexicon driver was old and no new version so useless for Cubase, but worked on an old copy of Audacity,

    I feel your pain, but has Cubase fell behind? Absolutely not. I have still not fully explored some features from version 8. Cubase fior me is a business expense, it generates income. If I wasn't happy with it I'd be running something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob aylestone View Post
    We're in the Reaper section, so this is getting a bit confusing
    This is why I made two posts but the admin deleted the one in the Cubase section. This post was purely to find out if Reaper performes better and had a lower vst performance etc etc.

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    I have run a few tests and these are the results....

    Avid Eleven Rack ASIO (64b-bit)
    Latency - 18.798ms
    Preferred Buffer Size - 704

    VST Peformance

    Average Load - 20/100
    Real-time peak - 5/100
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    Avid Eleven Rack ASIO (64b-bit)
    Latency - 14.444ms
    Preferred Buffer Size - 512

    VST Peformance

    Average Load - 20/100
    Real-time peak - 5/100
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    Avid Eleven Rack ASIO (64b-bit)
    Latency - 7.914ms
    Preferred Buffer Size - 224

    VST Peformance

    Average Load - 25/100 (spiked into red)
    Real-time peak - 10/100
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    After factory reset these are the defaults.

    Avid Eleven Rack ASIO (64b-bit)
    Latency - 21.927ms
    Preferred Buffer Size - 704

    VST Peformance

    Average Load - 20/100
    Real-time peak - 5/100


    Without knowing other peoples latency I woudlnt know if 20ms is good or bad and if it starts happing again it would be hard to raise the buffer without lag but I will update if it spikes again on the default setting. Anything above the default buffer size (704) I will be able to tell through Scuffham. If Cubase 9.5 is the solution then the question would be....Does it matter if it's pro or Artist? Is Cubase 9.5 more compatible to hyper threading, multi cores etc? What makes 9.5 more stable?

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    My buffer is around 3ms.

    I7 16GB built in 2013 computer. I use the focusrite software to get latency that low, though, and without it it's closer to your numbers. Have you tried Ccleaner and optimizing the computer for audio? Ccleaner will clean out a lot of junk that bogs down PCs.

    The one thing I don't like about 9.5 is it's slow to open. Once it's open it's great.

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    Mine is pretty slow too, to be honest, but that's because I have bundles of VSTs all over the place and it's looking for them in 4 or 5 paths. My audio driver latency is about 9ms I believe. I don't know for certain because I never have too fiddle with anything - My colleague/collaborator runs artiste 9.5 and I run pro 9.5. Neither of us have issues of any kind, and most files are interchangeable, although artist cannot make sense of VCA tracks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rob aylestone View Post
    Mine is pretty slow too, to be honest, but that's because I have bundles of VSTs all over the place and it's looking for them in 4 or 5 paths. My audio driver latency is about 9ms I believe. I don't know for certain because I never have too fiddle with anything - My colleague/collaborator runs artiste 9.5 and I run pro 9.5. Neither of us have issues of any kind, and most files are interchangeable, although artist cannot make sense of VCA tracks.
    Yeah my VSTs are in 5 different places, too. If you try to move them to one folder they usually break. It's a bummer that installation is still not standardized and so inefficient.

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    Yep - that's exactly my reason. Usually my fault when installing them, and I left the location to the default, which isn't a default for the others. Spreading them around though does work for large sample libraries as different drives can speed things up a bit. Mine also insists on trying to access an old bit of software that was on the dongle years ago, and it always gives me an error saying hypersonic cannot be found. It's ancient and long gone, and the licence is still on the dongle - but the software is not on the computer. It seems it cannot cope with this, and I don't intend removing it from the dongle just in case. Running the maintenance utility would probably stick it back anyway.

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