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    Long Time (Old) SONAR Man needs Drum Sampler help

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    HELLO AGAIN (after many, many years)...

    Don't know if u guys remember me...been using Cakewalk music creation software since Pro Audio 7. The old SONAR Forum at Cakewalk is a real mess (or non-existent)...can't get in.

    So: I created my own SNARE samples...from a ROGERS PowerTone 5" (circa mid-'60's) & a TAMA RockStar 6" Stainless Steel (circa mid-'80's...I believe). I recorded these samples using both overhead & underside micing, in my studio, w/ great mics & a great preamp (w/ an Aurora 8 AD/DA)...under pristine conditions...into SONAR Producer X1.

    1) MIDI MAPPING: I know what notes to assign for 'standard snare hit' and 'rim shot' (believing rim shot to be the same note as electric snare).

    2) VELOCITY: I've noticed in every Drum Sampler I've used (Session Drummer in SONAR primarily, these days)...there seems to be 3 different snare hit sounds...a light, medium and heavy velocity, w/ medium kicking in at 50 & heavy kicking in at 100 (correct me if I'm wrong). So...I recorded my samples at 3 different stick hit levels, low, medium and high (hoping I'm on the right track here?)

    3) SONAR used to have 'widgets' I believe, for creating one's own sample-based software apps...so my questions are:

    A) Should I use a widget & create my own Snare Sample-based App in SONAR...& if so...where can I find instructions on doing so in Producer X1 (or elsewhere)? (instructions that would explain every detail of not only creating the app, but also audio clip assignment relative to mapping & velocity). (actually...NTITAI...don't remember seeing widgets anywhere in SONAR...remembering these from PA9).

    B) Can I add my snare audio clips to an existing drum sample library (example, Session Drummer); & then make my mapping and velocity assignments within that app?

    Thanx...need some direction here...remember reading the basics of widget app creation way back when, but never implemented anything.


    mark4man
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    Hi there Mark4man. Yeah it has been a while.. :>) Old Cake user here too but no help unfortunately as I pretty much stayed in the audio tracking/mixing side. But I'd expect the basics might be the same and you could tap into the 'Cake BandLab forum?
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    decided to go w/ Kontakt...I have version 5; & the default player looks like it has a fairly simple process to assign clips, velocity scaling & all dat.

    [btw...after everything I did, my snare samples sounded way to *tinny*...it was because I had them tuned way too tightly, something I did when I used to play live to have the snare bite thru the mix (along w/ underside micing). As a rule of thumb, snares should be tuned to A; & I think I was 5 or 6 half steps above that (oy-vey)].

    But now I can at least go back to task...re-tune & re-record; & have a whack at Kontakt.

    cheers, mate...thanx,


    mark4man

    btw...no new users accepted at BandLab forum (& how many of those guys are knowledgeable as to the original ProAudio/SONAR anyway?)
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