HD24 Hard Drives

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wilkee

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I decided to replace the 2 drives in my HD24. They were 30gb Fujitsu's and I decided to replace them with 2 off 80gb Hitachi's to give me more room before I have to start deleting songs. However when I tried to format the drives both of them have failed at around the 70% region and now they will not work at all even when I try to format them in my PC.

I think it is unlikely that both drives were faulty so could it be a clash of HD24 and the these particular drives, Interesting.

Tony

P.S, Drives are Hitachi 13G0310 Deskstar 80GB
 
Are you sure you have the jumpers in the right place. I have had this happen and that was the problem.

Mike
 
I went with Seagate for my first add-on drive and I never looked back. I'd check the jumpers as previously mentioned. Could it be you lucked out and bought faulty drives... I hope that's not the case. But I suppose it could happen.

Chris
 
The jumpers were fine (I build custom computers as a hobby to help with the cash).
I am now a bit worried about letting the HD24 format the new drives as i think that this could have caused the problem!!

Will let you all know how I get on.

Tony
 
It's the jumpers on the drive (Master/Slave).

I've been building comps for 14 years - never had a problem. Yet when I went to just add a HD to the extra caddy I kept getting the same problem - look like it was loading, get to about 70% - and just stop. It was rather frustrating. It took several jumper setting trys before it completed the set-up/format correctly. Now it works like a charm :)

Pop the drive back out, try the jumper in a different location. You've got a 25% chance of success (Slave/Master/CS/none at all), so within 4 trys you should have it.

Good luck!

-Krag
 
kragbax said:
It's the jumpers on the drive (Master/Slave).

Good luck!

-Krag
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No, one of the drives now makes a loud clicking noise as soon as it is powered up. As I said the other drive is not recognised even in a computer now , it is NOT the jumpers.

Tony
 
wilkee said:
No, one of the drives now makes a loud clicking noise as soon as it is powered up. As I said the other drive is not recognised even in a computer now , it is NOT the jumpers.

Tony
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Well the loud clicking noise wasn't mentioned before. That can definitely be a problem. But I seriously doubt it would be caused by the HD24.

What you initially described:

wilkee said:
However when I tried to format the drives both of them have failed at around the 70%
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is exactly the problem I had (and apparently Mikeboy as well) until I got the jumper in the right place. And it wasn't where I thought it should go from a computer building standpoint. I was so frustrated I almost took the drive out and broke it myself!. However, after a few tries (with the jumper in different locations each time) I got past the 70% completed during my format and it's worked perfectly since.

What you are now describing sounds like a hard drive failure. Had that happen to me a few times on my work box.

-Krag
 
I will tell you what happened and what to do, I have used a hd24 for somt time now.

The HD is having a disk read error in a PC, I am correct? I think I am, the head is damaged for one of these 3 reasons.

1. Factory defect
2. Old Age or Normal wear overtime.
3. you pulled /or someone did\ the drive out while it was running.

here is what you should do.

#1 get a new HD.
#2 If what was on your HD was important, you need to send it to the maker, and they can save your information. DO NOT FREEZE THE HD, people say to freeze the HD to save the information for extended time, the problem with that is after it starts to thaw you only have about an hour window to get the info.
Let them handle it. and let me warn you, SOME things WILL be lost, when you have a head error such as you have. that means there is disk damage.
just be ready to flip your lid.

Derek, (dont kill the messenger )
 
Thanks for all your help guys.

Here's where I am at the moment.

Both drives are brand new.
Both drives failed the format at about 70%.
One of the drives now makes a loud clicking noise and does not respond to anything HD24, PC etc.

The other drive now hangs any PC that it is installed in.
I tried this drive with the various jumper settings (just in case) in the HD24 still the same , goes to 70% then the HD24 rejects the drive.

No drive was subjected to any form of shock whilst powered up or detached from the HD24 whilst selected.

It could be two faulty drives or it could be the HD24 hates this particular type?

I tried an old 30GB Maxtor to check the HD24 and it formatted perfectly first go.

I have now sent back both drives for replacement but I do not think I will risk them in the HD24!!!

Tony
 
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Were these HDs new or rebuilt or used?

I know you said new, but new to you can be old to someone else.


Here is the deal man, if the HDD's are not formatting correctly with the HD24 and are freezing up PC systems. well i would return them. I would not waste time fighting with it, Even if it is that the HD24 does not like it, I had to replace a drive before and i just went to wanmart and got a maxtor and it ran fine no problems. do what you like, but the best idea i can give you is contact alesis and see if these HD's will work. then return them. :)
GL man.
 
A quick update,

Have just received Email from the drive suppliers (Ebuyer) to say that they have checked the drives and agree that they are both faulty and will be sending me replacements.

Do I risk trying them in the HD24?

Tony
 
Reading all this and being a computer "builder" for many years (over 1,000 built) its rather obvious that the HD's were bad.

Now to answer your question about "should I try it again",,,the answer is YES!!

Go for it! Dont hate the HD24 for the bad HD's you got stuck with. Sometimes HD's come in a bad "batch". Sounds like you got 2 from that batch.

You also said the other HD you tried worked fine, so it should be good with the new HD's also.

Peace
AJ
 
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