Why is the arrangement of bottoms and knobs of recording devices..

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This is a question for one of my college classes that I couldn't get the answer for so I hoping someone could help me with it. It is comment on why the arrangement of bottoms and knobs of recording devices are different from the actual schematic design. And can anyone define what has haaz zone is I can't find it anywhere. Thanks, this board seems pretty cool.
 
This is a question for one of my college classes that I couldn't get the answer for so I hoping someone could help me with it. It is comment on why the arrangement of bottoms and knobs of recording devices are different from the actual schematic design. And can anyone define what has haaz zone is I can't find it anywhere. Thanks, this board seems pretty cool.
I wouldn't want to do your college work for you, unless I can get a corner of your diploma when you graduate ;) :D. But maybe this might help you along to getting the answers...

As far as the schematic vs. physical layout, they serve different purposes. Ask yourself what those purposes are, what makes a good schematic and what makes a good physical arrangement and whether those all add up to doing things the same way or not.

I have never heard of "haaz zone" myself. You maybe have a misspelling there? Try looking up "Haas effect", which is the closest thing I can think of related to the field of audio recording.

Good luck,

G.
 
thanks you for the input. I know they serve different purposes, I just can't figure out why. So I'm just stuck on this question sigh and I have class in an hour lol. Thank you for the haas effect I'm gonna go with that.:)
 
thanks you for the input. I know they serve different purposes, I just can't figure out why. So I'm just stuck on this question sigh and I have class in an hour lol. Thank you for the haas effect I'm gonna go with that.:)
Would laying out a circuit diagram in the same configuration as the physical layout necessarily make the most efficient use of a square piece of paper? Run with it...

:)

G.
 
Let me go out on a limb,...

I think the physical layout of a mixer board is closely related to the signal flow you'd expect to have, and also represents a logical layout per the typical work flow,... and it shouldn't differ much in relation to the actual schematic in the big-picture scheme of things.:eek:;)
 
You've probably seen the railway network diagrams that big cities have at their stations and stuff. These are stylised representations of the actual rail network, and serve a specific purpose: to show commuters which line takes you to which destination very easily. They are not drawn to scale, and bear only a passing resemblance to geography, though they are topologically correct (i.e. a loop is still a loop, a branch is still a branch). Detail that does not help the commuter (or, for that matter, a train scheduler) is removed.

A circuit diagram does the same thing. To allow a technician to understand the components and connections in a circuit, they are drawn on a paper in a way that shows these and their relationships to each other clearly. To represent them as they are in an assembled unit may be possible, but may be extremely difficult to follow (specially as units are three dimensional and paper diagrams are not).

If you build a component (e.g. an amplifier) from a kit, you will get two pieces of information: the circuit diagram that shows how the thing works, and a wiring diagram to show you how to put it physically together. These days, greater use is made of large-scale integrated chips, so many functions are delivered within a single chip, and all that attaches to a circuit board is the hardware (e.g volume knob). The circuit board itself is an exercise in topology, because it is in effect a two-dimensional object, and thus necessity may thwart a desire to have the board mimic a workflow.

In any case, where components are flown from the board, the placement of these can be quite arbitrary (i.e. you could position an indicator led anywhere you like on a panel).

(Seeing as deavers23 class should now be over, I figure I can be more blatant than Glen's subtle prodding)
 
We used to have two versions of diagrams on HVAC equipment for example. One would represent all the wiring and components as they were actually positioned. While helpful in some trouble shooting and locating, to use that as a means to learn how it functioned would be maddening. The is so much redundancy of paths in most built up systems it would be completely inappropriate as a means of presenting the logic of the circuits.
 
(Seeing as deavers23 class should now be over, I figure I can be more blatant than Glen's subtle prodding)
Heeheeeee. Yeah, good example with the railway maps.

Yeah, now that class is out, I'd tie together a couple of things said already; that the physical layout of the I/O and control surfaces are meant to facilitate human work flow, schematics are meant to diagram circuit design.

The two usually do not match in physical dimension or relation. A channel strip on a mixer might be, say, only 3/4" wide. That doesn't mean that the best way to draw a readable schematic of the electronics behind it would be a tall, narrow drawing; a square or rectangular area on the schematic may be more readable.

Also, often times it's even simpler than that; the schematic is often designed simply to make the most efficient use of the area on the piece of paper (or computer screen) on which it's printed or displayed. Things are often drawn simply to be able to pack everything in on every square inch available. It's like when you pack your band's gear into the van. You don't pack the stuff up in locations representative of where they will actually appear on stage, you pack it up in a way where you can actually get it all to fit into the van.

G.
 
This is a question for one of my college classes that I couldn't get the answer for so I hoping someone could help me with it. It is comment on why the arrangement of bottoms and knobs of recording devices are different from the actual schematic design. And can anyone define what has haaz zone is I can't find it anywhere. Thanks, this board seems pretty cool.

The schematic is the exact connection and signal flow of the entire circuit or system. The actual PC boards/layout of any electronic device has to do with ergonomics and signal integrity. Knobs and such are laid out to be as efficient as possible for humans to use. PC cards/wiring could be way different because of crosstalk/excess noise induction etc. There are many electronic/magnetic/RFI reasons that the PC board layout is the way it ends up being.
 
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