Which software is overall the best (to you)

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in your eyes, whats the best software

  • SEQUOIA

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • NUENDO 1.5.2

    Votes: 8 20.5%

  • Cubase 5.1 vst/32

    Votes: 10 25.6%

  • Pro tools (doesn't work under Xp :(

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • Logic platinum

    Votes: 9 23.1%

  • Sonar

    Votes: 8 20.5%
  • Total voters
    39
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what software is they best in your eyes? i perfer cubase 5.1 vst/32 and nuendo my self, but i'm gonna start using SEQUOIA a little more.
 
I like Cakewalk products better.

I had a chance to install Sonar and Cubase on my computer and try to use them without reading a manual first. Sonar was so much more intuitive and I figured out how to record in no time.

Cubase was very confusing...

Personally, I think this kind of test is just as important as the features a program may have. It could be the most powerfull thing ever created, but if its hard to use, I feel its useless.
 
brzilian said:
I like Cakewalk products better.

I had a chance to install Sonar and Cubase on my computer and try to use them without reading a manual first. Sonar was so much more intuitive and I figured out how to record in no time.

Cubase was very confusing...

Personally, I think this kind of test is just as important as the features a program may have. It could be the most powerfull thing ever created, but if its hard to use, I feel its useless.
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"TO ME" cubase and other steinberg products are more professional than any cakewal product. i don't see how you can say cubase is/was VERY CONFUING.... the first day i had it with out the manual i ran a 5hr session with ease.

but i asked "TO YOU" so you told me why you like Cakewalk Sonar. i've used all these programs. any other options?
 
.. If you like Sequoia then you will like Samplitude 2496 Producer v6.01...

Basically, Sequoia is Samplitude with modified code... they added in like 3 or 4 other features...

I use Samp 6 and love it... plus with Samp 6 there are a couple really nice multi-tracking skins available for the project and mixer...

I can tell by your post that you probably did not buy sequoia... it's got a list price $3,749 and is sold by Sekd at around $2,999
 
jdechant said:
.. If you like Sequoia then you will like Samplitude 2496 Producer v6.01...

Basically, Sequoia is Samplitude with modified code... they added in like 3 or 4 other features...

I use Samp 6 and love it... plus with Samp 6 there are a couple really nice multi-tracking skins available for the project and mixer...

I can tell by your post that you probably did not buy sequoia... it's got a list price $3,749 and is sold by Sekd at around $2,999
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no i didn't by it but one of my partners did. we also have samplitude 2496 its around $1000LIST, my boy got that from his brother in-law.
 
Not on the list but I just got wavelabs, and I think it's the greatest thing ever!
 
you waz up priz, haven't heard from you. now that you have wavelab you just lovin it. i use wavelab for my mastering with waves and steinberg mastering edition plugins
 
"Pro Tools doesn't work under XP." However, most people who are working on projects right now are not exactly shutting down their studios to upgrade to this OS that may have all sorts of interactions with their other software and hardware either. So I wouldn't guess that most people work under XP either.

Especially if they use Macs!
 
Sorry, but I have yet to find something that is really much better than little old N-Track. We have gone through Sonar, Vegas, CubaseVST32, Cool Edit Pro, PT LE, and SAW Pro. I still get better sound when using N-Track. It's just in your face, easy to use, 0 lag on my machine, and sounds transparent. Also, I refuse to use any software right now that won't function on Win2k.

My question is what do you think you can do to a wave file that I can't so with my N-Track, Wavelab, Steinberg plugins, and T-Racks? I really think its more about the AD/DA conversion and the pre/mic combos and mixing console you're using rather than the software.

H2H
 
I'd love to hear some of the stuff you've done with N-track. I've never heard anything done on it. Please post links if you have them...
 
hey Charger-

We're working on getting a web host for our studio website. Then I'll be able to have a place to put MP3's and such. Should have it by Christmas to put up some samples.

H2H
 
I don't think logic works under Win XP either. They just made it compatible with 2000 recently.
 
Hard2Hear said:
Sorry, but I have yet to find something that is really much better than little old N-Track. We have gone through Sonar, Vegas, CubaseVST32, Cool Edit Pro, PT LE, and SAW Pro. I still get better sound when using N-Track. It's just in your face, easy to use, 0 lag on my machine, and sounds transparent. Also, I refuse to use any software right now that won't function on Win2k.

My question is what do you think you can do to a wave file that I can't so with my N-Track, Wavelab, Steinberg plugins, and T-Racks? I really think its more about the AD/DA conversion and the pre/mic combos and mixing console you're using rather than the software.

H2H
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once you get your web hosting server stuff let me know, i would love to hear your tracks, becasue i see no way at al you can say n-track better than the other software listed. i didn't put it on the list because its so basic, its for hobbyist and beginners to me. i can't see n-track being romotly close to Cubase vst32, Nuendo,Logic, Saw Pro,pro tools..... or even coll edit pro.

What type of card are you using? o and every program listed DOES work under Win2000pro, pro tools may not. i ran it under 98se.
 
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What do you think software is actually doing? It's certainly not creating the sound, that is cone by your mics, pres, and converters. Since the opening of our commercial studio, I have been looking and listening to many different DAW setups in other studios, and this is what I have discovered. Software is just for mixing the tracks together and generating a stereo mix of them. If I plug a NeumannU89 into the Focusrite Red7, and use good converters, it is going to sound good no matter what software is tracking. *But there are some out there that really color the sound, like Vegas did it badly, SAW Studio did it, and Pro Tools really has its own sound.* N-Track seems to leave the sound as-is as to whats coming from my console and going into the converters. I play it back, and it sounds EXACTLY like it did when tracking live. I really just want it to sound like it does when I am tracking, because I use good gear in the first place, and my software should leave it alone. I have quality Steinberg plug ins, Wavelab, and T-Racks to alter the sound if I want to, but I dont want it changed without me doing it intentionally.

I just did a great jazz project this past weekend, and the pianist compared the work highly to anything he had done in his 40 years of playing. I will have the web stuff up hopefully by Christmas, so you can hear it. But never let price over rule your ears when it comes to making sound decisions.

H2H
 
Oh, my card is a Delta 1010 which I think we're going to be pairing up with the GENx6-96 we just got in here. Should be even better sound then.

And yes, Pro Tools is the one I was talking about with W2K, I just dont like 98.

H2H
 
Hard2Hear said:
My question is what do you think you can do to a wave file that I can't so with my N-Track, Wavelab, Steinberg plugins, and T-Racks? I really think its more about the AD/DA conversion and the pre/mic combos and mixing console you're using rather than the software.
H2H
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My reason for using Nuendo is : the automation of tracks and effects, to make the "walking in verb and shut the door " without havin' 3 hands on the desk - love it :D .... the slick interface, the scope pluck ( I'm a poor bastard - I can't afford to go out buying one after paying for Nuendo ) the Rewire option, the .... hey I could go on and on but I haven't got time, gotta make some music ;)
.... just wanna say about Pro Tools .... yeah - I would like to have the big TDM system, but if the choice is between Nuendo and Pro Tools software, I'll choose Nuendo anytime ( by the way C9-2001 .. now it's 1,53 beta ) you can download it at their webpage
bizz
 
ok you have some valid pionts. i also have a delta 1010 around over here. so i did a little test.
i recorded using N-track(demo),cubase, nuendo,sequoia, and cooledit pro 1.2. i couldn't hear much of a difference in the recording with the delta1010. then i hooked up a motu2408mkII. under sequoia the recording sounded a little better. the highs were much more crisp and there was no hiss at all.

so i understand your point about the software doesn't make it sound any better. but what i was defending is you said

I have yet to find something that is really much better than little old N-Track. We have gone through Sonar, Vegas, CubaseVST32, Cool Edit Pro, PT LE, and SAW Pro. I still get better sound when using N-Track
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i don't understand how you got a better sound with n-track, i used it along with all the others and the sound wasn't any better.as for programs being BETTER than n-track there are many
 
Actually, software does make a difference. All that audio doesn't just get transparently rotued from hard disk to the final mix... it goes through the software's mix bus. For years and years, Logic has been notorious for having an awful mix bus, which used something like 256 levels of precision to calculate audio gain. This was more a function of Logic's origin as a MIDI sequencer than any ineptitude on emagic's part. Anyway, the majority of these programs just don't do the math well, so the mix bus does color the sound. Pro Tools happens to do the math extremely well, which is why they are the preeminent DAW in the pro market (even the Logic users in the Pro market run through Digidesign TDM hardware, thus gaining the benefits of the DAE). However, Pro Tools doesn't offer nearly the features and expandability necessary to capture a large chunk of the "prosumer" and consumer markets. It's still a great sounding product, compared to any product out there, and I'd run a mix from any other DAW through the PT mix bus show you the difference... but it limits people to using only one kind of hardware, and only 24 tracks, and RTAS plugins... And in the end, most consumer level or prosumer level users don't care about the sound quality to that level of detail.
 
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If you are claiming that software doesn't have any effect on the sound, then you are highly mistaken...

there is a little thing called oversampling that is done in digital recording... and it is the software that does this through algorithyms... if one software uses algorithyms that are much better and more advanced than another softwares, the music recorded into the program with the better algorithyms will sound better...

now played back on standard speakers the difference may not be audible... but under a controled studio situation, I think you wll find differences...

c9-2001 mentioned that the highs were more crisp on Sequoia which is based on Samplitude code...

from what I have read, anybody who has used other professional recording programs and then gone to Samplitude, has said that recordings made in Samplitude just sound" better than recordings in other programs... Most of this can probably be attributed to the algorithyms Samplitude & Sequia use vs. the algorithyms of other programs...

so you see, the software itself can affect how the sound "sounds" when it is played back...
 
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