What would you use for the kick drum?

[powderfinger]

I've got an MXL 93v, 2 octava 012s, a shure 58......will any of these cut it for micing a kick drum?

 

[Speeddemon]

I dunno the MXL V93, but if it's a LD condenser, you could place it a few feet in front of the kick. Put the SM58 on snare (maybe remove the ball) and the 012's on overheads...

 

[Gidge]

id do exactly as Mr. Speedster said, but make a tunnel with blankets for the v93......

 

[DJL]

I've got an MXL 93v, 2 octava 012s, a shure 58......will any of these cut it for micing a kick drum?

Humm, you could try the MXL93V as the others said, or try the SM58 in the kick. Or you could even try X/Y with the Octava MC-012' s at about 6ft high and about 6ft out in front of the kit... and record the whole kit with just two mic's.

Some microphones that are popular for kick drums are...

Audio Technica ATM25
AKG D112
Beyer M88
EV RE20
Sennheiser MD421
Sennheiser E602
Shure Beta91
Shure Beta52
Etc.

 

[Fletcher]

Put the SM58 on snare (maybe remove the ball)

Why on earth would you even think about removing the ball?

Besides changing the acoustic signature of the mic in a not so insignificant manner... you're opening up the transduction element to a world of pain if it gets whacked.

 

[lomky]

popular oppinion is that the 57 is the same as the 58 without the filter. It even says so on the shure website, I personnaly think it is rather silly.

 

[DJL]

Put the SM58 on snare (maybe remove the ball)

I agree with Fletcher... your only asking for trouble when it get wacked. Oh, and the Shure SM57 and SM58 don't sound to same (even if you remove the ball)... close yes, but not the same.

 

[Speeddemon]

Why on earth would you even think about removing the ball?

Besides changing the acoustic signature of the mic in a not so insignificant manner... you're opening up the transduction element to a world of pain if it gets whacked.

I agree that it's more subsceptive to lethal blows, but the added high(mid) response might help a duller snare IMO.

Ofcourse, YMMV...

 

[Innovations]

Engage the pad switch on the V93 and it should be safe for the kick. The V93, like the 2003, does not show a bass dropoff in the response chart so it should be good for a kick.

 

[lomky]

I agree with Fletcher... your only asking for trouble when it get wacked. Oh, and the Shure SM57 and SM58 don't sound to same (even if you remove the ball)... close yes, but not the same.

this is directly from the Shure website. It's probably where alot of this info is coming from:

The SM58 and the SM57 share the same mic element, the Unidyne III. The only difference between the these two models is the grill design.

The grill design does affect the high frequency response, particularly above 8,000 Hz.

The SM57 grill design allows more proximity effect because the mic diaphragm can be placed closer to the sound source. Proximity effect increases each time the distance from the mic to the source is halved. When a mic is placed very close, it is quite easy to halve the distance: 1 inch to 1/2 inch; 1/2 inch to 1/4 inch; etc. Remove the ball grill from the SM58 and it will be more similar to the SM57 in its low frequency response.

Any other differences you hear between the SM57 and SM58 are likely to be subjective (psycho-acoustic) or due to slight manufacturing differences due to part tolerance

 

[DJL]

this is directly from the Shure website. It's probably where alot of this info is coming from:

The SM58 and the SM57 share the same mic element, the Unidyne III. The only difference between the these two models is the grill design.

The grill design does affect the high frequency response, particularly above 8,000 Hz.

The SM57 grill design allows more proximity effect because the mic diaphragm can be placed closer to the sound source. Proximity effect increases each time the distance from the mic to the source is halved. When a mic is placed very close, it is quite easy to halve the distance: 1 inch to 1/2 inch; 1/2 inch to 1/4 inch; etc. Remove the ball grill from the SM58 and it will be more similar to the SM57 in its low frequency response.

Any other differences you hear between the SM57 and SM58 are likely to be subjective (psycho-acoustic) or due to slight manufacturing differences due to part tolerance

The Shure SM58 and SM57 do NOT sound exactly the same... even if you remove the ball from the SM58 it does NOT sound like the SM57... close yes, but not the same. I believe part of the reason is because of the SM57 grill.

 

[coloradojay]

this is directly from the Shure website. It's probably where alot of this info is coming from:

The SM58 and the SM57 share the same mic element, the Unidyne III. The only difference between the these two models is the grill design.

The grill design does affect the high frequency response, particularly above 8,000 Hz.

The SM57 grill design allows more proximity effect because the mic diaphragm can be placed closer to the sound source. Proximity effect increases each time the distance from the mic to the source is halved. When a mic is placed very close, it is quite easy to halve the distance: 1 inch to 1/2 inch; 1/2 inch to 1/4 inch; etc. Remove the ball grill from the SM58 and it will be more similar to the SM57 in its low frequency response.

Any other differences you hear between the SM57 and SM58 are likely to be subjective (psycho-acoustic) or due to slight manufacturing differences due to part tolerance

This again!?

 

[lomky]

Engage the pad switch on the V93 and it should be safe for the kick. The V93, like the 2003, does not show a bass dropoff in the response chart so it should be good for a kick.

I know, sorry.

 

[Rimshot]

I have a friend from the Woodstock, NY area that uses the SM 58 on Kick and I've heard his recordings and it sounds okay. (It wouldn't be my first choice tho.) I have another friend down here on Long Island that is using the Oktava MK 219 on kick, and it surprisingly sounds really good, both live and in recordings.I only mention it because Guitar Center is unloading them for about $60.00 and you can still negotiate....
My first choices would be the AKG 112 or the Audix D6. I don't own either, but people who've mic'd my drums do, and I like what it gives me. Don't even ask what I've been using, it's only good for live sound, I'll be picking up a D6 in July. I'm one of those guys that likes the deep "thud" bass.