what cheap mic and premap?

[fred power]

Hi, we are a simple band from Holland.I want to record a few
songs, just with 2 mics.
(Band = singer , drums , bass, guitar)
What mics and preamp(s) should I use ?
Any ideas???

 

[muzeman]

fred power,
Welcome,
As far as mics,there are many possibilites,but if your going to record a whole band live with drums,I think you'll need more than 2.
Why don't you give your'e exact setup and budget,so everyone can get an idea where to point you.
A good place to start would be by reading our resident mic guru's thread-

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?threadid=27030-

It will tell you everything you could possibly need to know about mics!

As far as cheap pre amps-same thing,what are you looking to spend?
Art,&DBX make decent single channel pre's for around $100.

Hope this helps,
Pete

 

[darrin_h2000]

SP B1 and a midiman audiobuddy at 179 for both is you best bang for a buck. you should get a sm57 for double micing amps.

 

[fred power]

mic

Many thanks for the respons.
About the setup:

1 shure sm 57, sennheiser e845,sennheiser e602,
spirit folio F1, Layla souncard.
I have recorded some songs with this equipment, but i am
not completely happy with the result. (if you r interested: www.virtualstreetband.com).
I have a very nice little studio, and would like the recording
we make to sound, as it sounds as we play.
I'm thinking about a good 2 channel preamp , and
2 cond. mics. I hear the oktave is good for the price.

Thanks for the reactions.

 

[notCardio]

Is it important to you to record the whole band as they play live, or are you willing to record individual tracks and put them together on the computer? If you will be recording everyone at the same time, can you isolate the instruments from each other, or not?

If what you are trying to do is capture the sound of your band live, as it sounds to you as you are playing, I would think that you would want to try some omni-directional mics.

Does anyone else share this opinion? Am I thinking correctly here?

 

[ametth]

Whats your budget?

You certainly record a whole band with only two mics, it's being done all the time. The rub lies in the room, you really have to have a great room to do it it. Hell, you really need good mics and pres too. So what do you want?

Depends on the "quality" you want.

 

[Axis]

My suggestion is that you should get a few omnidirectional mic's, 1 for each instrument and 2 for the drums (overheads) This should isolate each instrument good enough. It all depends on what kind of budget your on

 

[fred power]

Thanks again!

Yes that is what we want:

"If what you are trying to do is capture the sound of your band live, as it sounds to you as you are playing"

I've tried to record some songs channel by channel, but i don't
really like the result. When i listen to some recording i've made
just with 2 cheap dynamic mics, i prefer that sound.
bad quality, but a lot of "ambiance". Also i like the way the
instrument mix a natural way. ( i hope, i make sense).
Info:
We don't play loud
The studio sounds very, very dry.
Budget $ 1000-1500

 

[knownuttin]

Fred, for what you describe I would try a pair of small diaphram condensors. The Oktava MC-012 are widely recommended, and provide the option of buying the additional capsules fo an exceptional value. If you're looking to capture the room sound, I would place them in an X/Y arrangement, with the center oriented in the place where the band sounds best. You, or a helper, might discover where this is by walking around the room with one ear covered while the group plays.

As for mic pres, I would bet that your Spirit board pres are adequate. I would take the signal directly out of each, rather than from the main outs in order to bypass the additional noisy circuitry. If you simply must purchase something, be warned that to significantly upgrade mic pres can be very expensive. I'd advise you to avoid those which add "color" in favor of the cleaner pres. Perhaps, the DMP3 would suit you. Or, if you can wait, the RNMP from FMR is expected anytime before the apocalypse. That's what I'm waiting for.
-kent