W2K Gurus - Slackmaster et al

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Any tips for improving and startup time for W2K pro? I goes to about 50%, sounds like it powers down my hard drive, than does some testing on my CD-ROM, and then finally boots up. Is that tweakable? Any other general performance tweaks you suggest?

Thanks!
 
About how long does the whole process actually take? I'd say that W2k takes on average about 45 seconds to one minute to boot on adequate systems. Maybe I should time it just to be certain.

The bootup procedure usually goes smoothly to about 50-75% and then starts to initialize devices that can take a while. USB devices I've found will slow bootup a bit. Some cheap CDROM drives will drastically slow the boot process, especially if you leave a CD in the drive. If you leave a scratched up CD in the drive it'll take a long time to initialize it.

I've never heard my hard drives powering down during the boot sequence though. Are you certain that's what's going on? You know, I seem to have a very faint memory of somebody having a problem with hard drives powering down in Win2k......hmmm... can't quite remember.

I like to disable every damn power management option in the BIOS. It's not enough to simply set "power management" to "disable" either, sometimes you have to go through and disable all sorts of shit. This always seems to improve system reliability as long as you have Win2k running as a Standard PC and have APM off. You can also get rid of the "hold the power button in for 4 seconds" crap when you're not doing ACPI. It's best to run the system as a Standard PC to better manage your IRQ settings as well.

I will not suggest any other win2k "tweeks" because I have yet to find any that do anything useful. I don't even recommend the pagefile trick anymore. There are some settings that I like to make however, like disabling animated windows, but that's not much of a tweek :) Oh, and I disable auto insert notification.

Win2k takes a while to boot compared to WinME and the like, but that's just the way of it. You should time it and let me know. It's sort of a small price to pay. Once nice thing is that you can leave your system running for extended periods of time without performance or reliability issues. Also, it isn't necessary to reboot as often...in fact rebooting because of a lockup is VERY rare (TIP: ocassionally a process will knock out the entire desktop. Ctrl+Alt+Del->Task Manager->Applications->New Task->Explorer.exe will get you running again) My favorite feature is being able to do *anything* to my network setup without having to restart the system.

Anyways, if your system truely is taking too long to boot, then the standard troubleshooting procedures apply. Just FYI, I've had to replace more CDROM drives in the last year or so than I've ever had to replace prior. In a couple instances the drive was making Win2k act funny, and in one case actually causing the boot sequence to freeze or appear locked for an irritating amount of time.

And for anyone reading, please be aware that the bootup and shutdown procedures of the operating system are absolutely critical. If you power the system down early during shutdown, or power the system down during bootup, you risk losing your operating system. I recently lost a Slakware Linux installation because I hit the restart button during bootup. I also lost a Win2k installation because a task had frozen and Windows was waiting for it to respond before shutting down. It is critical that you always let the system boot fully. It is just as critical that you not hit the power button if you shutdown the system and nothing *seems* to be happening. In this case, a process or two have either frozen, or are not in a place where they can be shutdown and windows is waiting on them. Be patient; sometimes waiting as long as 5 minutes. The system will eventually go down (assuming you're using a good OS; Win9x will often go to take a dump and never return). You know, this also applies when the system is just running...I've seen so many people inaccurately *THINKING* that their machines were locked up. Sometimes things go wrong, and sometimes it takes a long time to recover. Yesterday I had a goofy app start sucking memory and processor time to the point where the system was almost unusable...it took about 15 minutes for me to simply open up the task manager and kill the process...but I was able to do it. I'll shutup now.

Slackmaster 2000
 
Thanks for responding Slack.

I timed it from the point I hit enter on my boot manager software. It takes 55 seconds. I guess that's not too bad - I seem to remember it being faster though last time I had it up and running.

The hard drive does sound like it powers down. I read on some site about a tweak that would stop it from testing all the drives at boot up, never tried though.

I enabled APM - my machine doesn't auto power off without it. Is this not recommended? I am in standard pc mode.

On a side note. I installed 2 boots of W2K, and then a third boot of 98. It was working fine. All the sudden it doesn't boot to 98 anymore. Very strange, just stops at a blinking _ curser.

W2K hijack it?

Another side note. I tried out the latest MAudio drivers, static everytime you move faders etc, hope they get that one worked out.

How do you get it to remember your password for your dialup internet access? It puts a password in there, probably the administrator one which is 'emeric'.

If I use my real password, and select 'sve password - next time around it's forgotten. Anyway, thanks for the help!

Emeric
 
dont worry.. microsoft have certainly improved the bootup time for XP. It really is very fast compared to previous OSs... still we wait for the day when bootup will be almost instantaneous as it should be. *sigh*

OH. Great facilty for bootup is START -> RUN -> type MSCONFIG

that util gives you a shitload of options. You may know that already right enough.
 
I set up a dual boot on a machine yesterday. XP and Win 98, Win98 boots faster....

So there!!!

XP has an illusion of being faster, all those moving lights you know?

Seriously, a stock 98 machine boots up faster than XP, windows ME boots up faster than 98 but sucks as an OS. The XP looks like some twisted MAC OS to me, but it's really windows 2000 with fancy dressing. Won't be using it anytime soon.

W2K takes forever to boot up and is an OS. Whether it's any good who knows, using it on and off for 2 years with no firm conclusions. Win 98 has been the best for me so far, but ditched it to.

Actually DOS was.

DOS multitracker that's what we need.

All operating systems suck.
 
Of course Win98 boots faster. The extra overhead of NT is unavoidable, but in the end makes for a considerably better user experience.

Slackmaster 2000
 
I have just timed it myself (Win2k) and from the time I hit the power button to the time the taskbar tray is complete, I get 1 minute 15 seconds.

Two weeks ago, when playing with the included Pinball game, after I made it full screen, it froze on me. I wasn't able to do anything to make my machine work again. My only choice was to press the reset button. Since then, I noticed a slight increase in time for boot-up.

I have a question regarding the auto-power off. After it's powered off, my keyboard lights and my optical mouse light remain open. I have to turn off the power switch on the back of my computer to turn them off. Any idea how to fix that?

About tweaking Win2k, I'm sure you've seen this ProRec article, but just in case:

http://www.prorec.com/prorec/articles.nsf/articles/45BEB3250308114E86256A7F007D8FA4
 
Can't exlain it. My PC booted in less than 15 secs. It took ages before.
 
giaschel

No fix for that, it's normal for ATX systems.

It's to allow you to power up with, say - your mouse or keys instead of the power button.

I set mine up so I just have to hit CTRL F1 to boot up, don't have to move a foot or so to hit the power button. Saves energy... :)
 
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