Tascam M2524 Question(s)

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M2524.

Any other users of this console to help answer these questions:

Can both Mic XLR and Line inputs be plugged in/utilized, and not have the Line in level drop significantly? Seems the Pre takes over once XLR's are input. I liked the feature on my M-312 that had the switch to select mic or line. Not on the m2524. Is there a preamp mod to fix this?

Also what is the "Flip" switch for?? (I have no manual, if some kind soul would point me to a pdf....)

Thanks, all and Happy New Year

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Skelly said:
M2524.

Any other users of this console to help answer these questions:

Can both Mic XLR and Line inputs be plugged in/utilized, and not have the Line in level drop significantly? Seems the Pre takes over once XLR's are input. I liked the feature on my M-312 that had the switch to select mic or line. Not on the m2524. Is there a preamp mod to fix this?

Also what is the "Flip" switch for?? (I have no manual, if some kind soul would point me to a pdf....)

Thanks, all and Happy New Year

S

I have the M2516. I have no manual, and have struck out so far on attempts to get one for free. I think you can buy one from tascam.

I never try to use the XLR & Line ins at the same time. The "flip" switch changes from the mic/line over to the "tape in", which is not affected by the trim pot.

I have figured out how to create mute presets with the keypad area, but they're not too useful to me for recording.

The talkback mic, studio output, control room out, and groups are all functions I have found useful, as well as the direct outs per channel (although I wish they were balanced).

I can't quite figure out the row of knobs right above the pan knobs, and I don't really use the auxes, although I did figure out the post/pre left/right thing after a bit of fiddling.

I love the EQ, and the pre's sound great, but I'll admit I've not had anything better to compare to.

If you have any insight thus far, fill me in. I'll be happy to answer any questions I can.
 
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Skelly said:
Take a look at post #5 of this thread:

http://tascamforums.com/index.php?showtopic=13548&st=0&p=81488&#entry81488

"The grey GROUP OUTS are the main outputs for recording. Those would be the 8 channels going "in" to an 8 track tape player. The 16 channels are for the mic/line inputs. The buttons to the left of each 16 slide controls are connected to the GROUP OUTS. When the 1-2 button is pushed, that input is being sent to 1 AND 2 group out. The pan directly above the slide when trurned to the left will just go to group 1 out. When turned to the right, goes to just group 2 out. And so on for 3-4 button, 5-6 button, and 7-8 button. The L-R button sends that input to the main and headphone stereo outputs. If you push all the buttons down and panned center, that track will go to ALL group outs and main and headphone. The way I have mine set up, I have the group outs going to the 8 track inputs. The 8 track outputs I have going in to the "tape in" RCA jacks for tracks 9 through 16. Then I use tracks 1 through 8 for mic/instrument inputs. I don't have more than 8 inputs at any one time so this works great for me. When on tape play back I'm using 9 - 16 going out to the main stereo for playback and mix down recording to analog or computer digital stereo. I use the Xitel anolog to digital and LP Ripper/Recorder. Works for me. "

Hey, thanks for the info. This is not really new to me.

The feature on the mixer I was refering to is above the pan knob, there is a second pan knob, and a knob called monitor. I think it's something to do with a/b'ing between the live inputs on 9 thru 16 and the tape returns. Like I said, I haven't figured it out.

I don't use my group outs for recording though. I use them to run my headphone amplifier.

I have the Behri 4 channel with per channel aux inputs on the front. It's mounted right above my patchbay. The Group outs run to the patch bay, so I can make a basic Headphone mix which will appear on all 4 channels of the headphone amp, assign the instrument I need more of to a group, then patch the group into the Aux Input of the Behri for the performer/channel that needs it.

My set-up is running two Delta 1010's (one regular, one LT) for 16 simultaneous inputs. I use the direct outs on channel 1-8 straight to the patchbay, normalled thru to the inputs of the first Delta 1010. Direct outs 9 thru 16 are hooked directly to the inputs of the second 1010(LT) One similarity to the above quoted set-up is that I usually record thru the first 8 channels and use the second set of 8 as returns from the computer(thru the "tape ins"). The 8 Outs of each soundcard are hooked up to the opposite 8 from the inputs, so it's a little harder to create a feedback loop.

I like using the direct outs better too, because I only have one fader to adjust to get my level into the computer. Plus I don't have to ever worry about accidentally routing something else into the recording input. The only thing that can be recorded into that channel is whatever is plugged into it.

Using the patchbay normalled is cool because of the routing flexibility it gives me.

Thanks for the Tascam Forum link, I'm going to have to pore through it a bit and see what else I can turn up.

I really think this mixer is ideal for my setup, I've been using it for about a year and a half, and I'm really happy with it.
 
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I also have a 16-channel rig. Instruments enter normalled patchbay on top, then out the bottom to the board, for line instruments, mic inputs are permanent. The Boards Group Outs go into one 8-ch interface (STAudio DSP2000) then I use 8 select direct outs to the second 8-ch interface . I use 2 aux sends to effects unit(s), and return to board, so I can route via/through groups for a separate effect track. I dont like the hard panning to go to odd/even groups, My M-312 had 4 groups, button for each.

The Little Pan and Monitor know is for when you press the GRP1-8 Buttons above channels 17-24, you can monitor and pan the group outs through the main l/r.

I like to have everything into board first for vol adjustment then control room out to headphone amp, I might consider using other pair aux channel for an easier-to-manipulate individual mixes to headphone main ins.

right now I think it's Channel 1-8 for drum mics, 9-12 for 2 Roland TD Drum Brains' L/R's, 4 channels for other mics, 2 for analog synth, effect & sampler (Synth goes into old Delay box, then splits direct out to effects unit for Left channel, then the Delay box effect out go into sample for Right Channel; its an interesting usage), 2 for a synths' rack mixers' L/R out, 2 are free, 2 for main outs from interface.

I ordered a manula from tascam, it's on Back Order!

What's the Little Black panel on the back covering?

Talk to you soon!

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Hi,

Get a manual and get the midi mute system working, it is great for eliminating noise at the start and end of songs, muting unwanted parts of tracks, even a form of automation by example running a guitar track into 2 channels muting one during the rhythm section and then swapping the channels during a solo.

Of course this is for people using analogue recording (tape) equipment. If you have software based recording it can be done in the software.

Great fun.

Cheers

Alan.
 
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