jugalo180
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hmmm, what is the (significant) difference in the two, and wich one would suit me best for male rap vocals.
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FURAX Eric
New member
Wondering the same thing...
I am wondering the same thing, except I am a male metal vocalist. I currently have an SM58, and I was wondering if the upgrade was worth the $150, or if I should spend it on something else like a preamp or a compressor.
I am wondering the same thing, except I am a male metal vocalist. I currently have an SM58, and I was wondering if the upgrade was worth the $150, or if I should spend it on something else like a preamp or a compressor.
jugalo180
www.moneyistherecipe.com
the little i do know
i know the beta has a supercoidioid, i hope i spelled it right. what i need to know, like furax, is if that extra modification, plus all others will make an extreme noticeable difference in the recording quality?
i know the beta has a supercoidioid, i hope i spelled it right. what i need to know, like furax, is if that extra modification, plus all others will make an extreme noticeable difference in the recording quality?
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FURAX Eric
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Well I am using my pedal which has a pre-amp simulator, and I can apply post-compression and all that crap like there's no tomorrow. So I just need to know if the difference between the sm58 and the beta58 is really all that groundbreaking, you know?
crawdad
Dammit, Jim, Shut Up!
Both mics are good for live vocals. Some people use them in the studio for vocals as well. The differences? My non-scientific observations are that the beta58 has a sweeter top end and a more focused low end. You can turn it up louder before feedback too. Other than that, they have a very similar sound--that same 5k presence boost that makes them cut through well.
While you are at it, check out the Beta57. Thats my current favorite vocal mic for live use.
While you are at it, check out the Beta57. Thats my current favorite vocal mic for live use.
jugalo180
www.moneyistherecipe.com
cool
thanx for that crawdad, btw, are you from louisiana? if so, i'm from new orleans.
thanx for that crawdad, btw, are you from louisiana? if so, i'm from new orleans.
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chessparov
New member
Here's the "subject matter expert"! (LOL)
IMHO, for MOST vocalists the Beta 58 is superior to the 'ol SM58.
If I was getting a Beta 58 or Beta 57, however, a nice used one
off e-bay is a better way to go than one new.
Keep in mind that many pro engineers feel the SM57 along with a pop screen (not foam!) is superior to a SM58 for recording.
In fact the supposedly "better" Beta 57 runs a dead heat with my
SM57 on my voice, with each having a signature sound.
On the other hand, if I were singing the lead in a Stones tribute
band and looking for that "sound", it would be a SM58 in a jump'in jack flash!
One of the advantages of the Beta's is that they run hotter than a "regular" 57 or 58, thereby needing less gain from our often less than stellar mixers/mic pre's.
Chris
P.S. On my voice it took a lot of time to finally figure out the
correct placement of a Beta 57 due to mild sibilance issues
as it's brighter than a SM57.
A Shure SM57 is easier for me to set up quickly due to its
relative lack of top end compared to the Beta.
IMHO, for MOST vocalists the Beta 58 is superior to the 'ol SM58.
If I was getting a Beta 58 or Beta 57, however, a nice used one
off e-bay is a better way to go than one new.
Keep in mind that many pro engineers feel the SM57 along with a pop screen (not foam!) is superior to a SM58 for recording.
In fact the supposedly "better" Beta 57 runs a dead heat with my
SM57 on my voice, with each having a signature sound.
On the other hand, if I were singing the lead in a Stones tribute
band and looking for that "sound", it would be a SM58 in a jump'in jack flash!
One of the advantages of the Beta's is that they run hotter than a "regular" 57 or 58, thereby needing less gain from our often less than stellar mixers/mic pre's.
Chris
P.S. On my voice it took a lot of time to finally figure out the
correct placement of a Beta 57 due to mild sibilance issues
as it's brighter than a SM57.
A Shure SM57 is easier for me to set up quickly due to its
relative lack of top end compared to the Beta.
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littledog
New member
the beta series uses a neodymium element, much like the EV ND series mics. The main audible difference is an extended high frequency response - closer to a condenser sound than the traditional 57's and 58's.
The extra "air' in the sound usually flatters most vocalists, but may not be an advantage on snare drums, because of the extra HH bleed it will pick up.
The extra "air' in the sound usually flatters most vocalists, but may not be an advantage on snare drums, because of the extra HH bleed it will pick up.
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chessparov
New member
The newer element flatters the "top", however, it also "hardens" the
mid range frequencies of the voice somewhat.
That's what caused me to rate the Beta 57 and SM57 as being comparable
on my voice as they had the above characteristics.
That's why some engineers like Jim Williams at Audio Upgrades prefer the
"old" EV RE20 over the "new" EV RE27ND (both LD dynamics).
These microphones cost about $400+ and $475+ respectively BTW.
Chris
mid range frequencies of the voice somewhat.
That's what caused me to rate the Beta 57 and SM57 as being comparable
on my voice as they had the above characteristics.
That's why some engineers like Jim Williams at Audio Upgrades prefer the
"old" EV RE20 over the "new" EV RE27ND (both LD dynamics).
These microphones cost about $400+ and $475+ respectively BTW.
Chris
