Remix: Its a Bic

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After listening to yalls comments I got off my butt and redid this little piece and remixed it. I hope I captured the audio and polyphony like you were talking about Pipeline. Somebody check it out and let me know what you think about the highs I`m using now. It seems to be a little more vibrant when it goes to mp3.
Muchos gracias,
Ken

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"its a Bic"
 
strange and interesting piece.. I didn't care for that reverb on the drums.. mainly its effect on the high hat, ride cymbals.. cool tune though...
 
B.SABBATH said:
strange and interesting piece.. I didn't care for that reverb on the drums.. mainly its effect on the high hat, ride cymbals.. cool tune though...
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I appreciate it dude. I was trying to get a wooden stage under the drums, in an older type music hall or theatre with wood around in the room type sound. I sizzled a little much to comp for the low end roll I guess.. :)
 
I know Im NOT supposed to comment on songwriting, I guess, but I will anyway.

People should take note, that although, noone MAY notice that he constantly varied his snare pattern. It DAMN sure makes you forget whether or not theyre fake drums and concentrate elsewhere.

This kind of " blending" and "focus and out of focus" can keep something alive, and constantly keep you guessing. It makes you want to hear the WHOLE song, as you DONT think you know whats coming up.

I think it would be fun to have more " leslie" on the organ sound, but thats probably overdoing it :)

I think that this track could benefit from some of the devices that so many hate and fear: exciters

something like Ozone DX, would let you throw in bass and SUPER hi treble that isnt even there. It might be worth a try. Theres a lot of hi and low space, that could be filled, but then again, that may take away some of the " mellow "
 
I thank you sir, and as always your opinion is well regarded with me. doing 3 piece midi is not that easy to keep full, so the added analog pad string helped a little. I do feel better in learning placement in the mix, I`ll continue to be responsive to all your comments as I hope and feel education is a continuous thing.
Note: I`m a bass player trying to relearn keyboards so I can`t do a lot of probably neccesary things, yet.
 
beautiful!! I appreciate it. I need to learn some pattern editing as well.
 
Nice job!

I dont know how many tracks you have but a trick I like to do is take the drum track and add a 100% wet track then slowly add the wet track to the dry one, that way you keep the crisp clean sound of the drums but add the reverb effect enough where it wont sissle the HHats and cymbals! give it a try.

awesome playing, very choatic sounding to me, but as everyone knows there is order is chaos.
 
Re: Nice job!

Sigma9 said:
I dont know how many tracks you have but a trick I like to do is take the drum track and add a 100% wet track then slowly add the wet track to the dry one, that way you keep the crisp clean sound of the drums but add the reverb effect enough where it wont sissle the HHats and cymbals! give it a try.

awesome playing, very choatic sounding to me, but as everyone knows there is order is chaos.
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Thanks, I`ll do that with drums and see what happens. I`m snagged quite a bit on drums right now, but I`ll keep pluggin till I can get what I can do to jive with what I can think.
This tuff is maybe a little too far outside the lines for most folks too.
 
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A very pleasant listen.
Be careful not to lose any of the "mellow" this tune has.

I really dig the "free form" piano playing through this.
The strings add the flow and accent the piano licks well.
Maybe a tad more bottom end on the low keys would be nice, but that is a preference of mine.
I love to feel my belly jiggle!

Really good job!!


And who the Fuck gave this one star!!????!!?!?!?!?
 
I never look at the stars (except the ones in the sky). Cool tune. Sounds like it would be a movie sound track behind a rainy night time car ride scene. The string pad panned hard seems off balance to me especially towards the end when it's by itself. Good job overall.
 
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A very pleasant listen.
Be careful not to lose any of the "mellow" this tune has.

I really dig the "free form" piano playing through this.
The strings add the flow and accent the piano licks well.
Maybe a tad more bottom end on the low keys would be nice, but that is a preference of mine.
I love to feel my belly jiggle!

Really good job!!


And who the Fuck gave this one star!!????!!?!?!?!?
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most appreciated. If you like it, thats all it was recorded for :)... I would love it, IF I were a real keyboard player. Maybe the next tune will be better reflected playing and mix wise. I been strugglin a little gettin drums squared away to feel more real and logical, but they`re coming along.
 
Track Rat said:
I never look at the stars (except the ones in the sky). Cool tune. Sounds like it would be a movie sound track behind a rainy night time car ride scene. The string pad panned hard seems off balance to me especially towards the end when it's by itself. Good job overall.
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Stars don`t matter at all until you look up outside at night :)
It was just a mood reflection, and an exercise at trying to get a better drum feel and mix,and using the verb. I was stabbing at a 3 piece jazz combo in a wooden music hall. I had to add the synth to get some more polyphony going and hold the theme up. I did pan too much offright, very apparent at the "car crash" :) near the end. The cymbals went artificial too at the end. I was using the paintbrush on the velocity view window and overdid it. The real deal is... that Im learning more each time, and I have no problems tossing credit back to you folks, and sincere appreciation for sharing your ears and suggestions.
The next one will be better...
 
some nice free form sounding stuff............i can't give any real mix suggestions, because it sounds pretty good to me......................................good job
 
I do thank you guys for being cordial, and I apologize if hurt anybodys ears. I am surely not asking anyone to listen to this dead ass piece again, but I am saving it to re-record again with some player help. So dont bother with that. I just wanted state a lesson I`ve learned here that may help a rookie like me work around an easy error to make.
I listened to this thru real monitors instead of the desktop pc speakers I had used and found that by being lazy and "mixing" it in the desktops for listening thru desktops, I had really screwed it up. The whole audio spectrum was way out of balance. Too much rumble and way too many highs, with assinating midrange. I tried to salvage it with a parametric, its a little better.
I learned a lesson from it anyways. If your trying for small desktops, mix it in the monitors or headphones first then tailor it for cheap speakers "before" its coded to wav. "keepin on keepin on"

Thanks Folks,

Tok :)
 
Pretty cool free-form type stuff. It doesn't sound like a jazz trio though, 'cause a decent jazz drummer would not do a straight beat like that. He'd be just as out there as the other two. The sounds are cool....I really like the piano...what is that? I agree that there might be too much 'verb on the drums....just a little bit though. Interesting.
 
Sounds pretty cool. The drums do seem kind of juxtaposed with all the other freeform groove elements. But it's nice work.

Where in AL do you live? I goto lower AL (Pensacola), somewhat regularly to see my fam.
 
I appreciate yall. Powder, Jc, Bob, Sub

The piano is a Roland darkgrand Bob. I gotta learn to be a jazz drummmer too? damn :)

thanks Sub. Im in Enterprise, its about 20 miles west of Dothan.
 
B.SABBATH said:
strange and interesting piece.. I didn't care for that reverb on the drums.. mainly its effect on the high hat, ride cymbals.. cool tune though...
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What Sam said... humongous 'verb on drums is really hard to do right imo... Alice In Chains' "No Excuses" is a good example of how to do it...

...is there a way for you to set the pre-delay on that reverb? Should be lengthened... Somehow, the highs in the drum reverb are washing things out... Try cutting the highs on the reverb return above about 2k... (! yeah, sounds extreme, but try it anyway... )


Chad
 
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