Recording on reaper sounds thin

[rezafelayati]

So, basically....i am very new to this computer recording realm and I just got the hang of knowing all about VSTs and plugins. Right now, i am running my guitar (Ibanez Premium RG 927 w/ dimarzio crunch lab and liquifire) through m audio mobile pre USB mk II.

I use Reaper as the recording software, which is loaded by VSTs consist of: ReaComp (compressor) --> noisegate --> TSE 808 (tubescreamer) --> noisegate (again) --> amp (5150 simulator) --> cab simulator --> ReaEQ (equalizer) --> lowpass filter

I am kinda trying to achieve djenty guitar tone like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7SbVOE7W3k

however, i kinda felt that my tone i produced is really different...kinda thin and weak.

even when I double track (copy and paste) the track, it is still sounding thin and weak....

here's the example of my tone:




i am looking forward for any suggestion and help for achieving better tone...

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[Farview]

The copy/paste thing is not how you double a track. You have to play the part twice.

How did you come up with the effects chain you have?

Is there a cabinet simulator anywhere in the chain.(it could be part of the amp sim)?

 

[MrWrenchey]

The copy/paste thing is not how you double a track. You have to play the part twice.

Yup. Do this and then it's already going to sound better. Copy and pasting it just makes it louder, it doesn't do anything special. Copy and pasting will do the same thing as pushing your fader up on the one track by 3dB.

EDIT:

Just watched the YouTube video and then listened to your sample. My first thought is that your guitar sounds bloody clean. It doesn't even sound distorted. Maybe you just need some more gain?

 

[ashcat_lt]

As mentioned on the Reaper forum thread, all the plugins in that chain are bypassed.

 

[Farview]

I just listened, yes, there is a clean thing going on. Of course, I listened to the youtube thing as well. It sounds weak and crappy too.

 

[rezafelayati]

Actually, i am not bypassing it when recording that :3 its just when i take a picture of the chains, the fx chain is being bypassed hahaha

and, actually...i have change several changes afterwards, as you can see in the pics...



and this is what I got ( i do the real double tracking in this one hahahaha)



any further suggestions guys? thanks for your replies....i appreciate it btw

 

[Farview]

It sounds fine, but it doesn't sound like you played it twice. If you did play it twice, you would need two effects chains with the same thing in it, one panned left, the other panned right.

Remember that in a song, the bass guitar will be filling out the low end. This sound is pretty good for what you are trying to do.

 

[mixedbyjoshua]

hey bud, im into the same style

So, basically....i am very new to this computer recording realm and I just got the hang of knowing all about VSTs and plugins. Right now, i am running my guitar (Ibanez Premium RG 927 w/ dimarzio crunch lab and liquifire) through m audio mobile pre USB mk II.

I use Reaper as the recording software, which is loaded by VSTs consist of: ReaComp (compressor) --> noisegate --> TSE 808 (tubescreamer) --> noisegate (again) --> amp (5150 simulator) --> cab simulator --> ReaEQ (equalizer) --> lowpass filter

I am kinda trying to achieve djenty guitar tone like in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7SbVOE7W3k

however, i kinda felt that my tone i produced is really different...kinda thin and weak.

even when I double track (copy and paste) the track, it is still sounding thin and weak....

you're familar with periphery im sure. that djenty tone comes from AT LEAST double tracking guitars but its often QUAD tracked (yep ,1,2,3,4 tracks). Copy and pasting does not achieve this, it just makes your thin grt track sound louder.

You need to do record a separate take for each track. then pan them left and right to make em sound wide, you get a cool effect when gtrs are panned appart from each other but theyre playing different takes of the same riff.

check out this video it explains it thoroughly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er9VhozNHNk

 

[MrWrenchey]

Actually, i am not bypassing it when recording that :3 its just when i take a picture of the chains, the fx chain is being bypassed hahaha

and, actually...i have change several changes afterwards, as you can see in the pics...

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and this is what I got ( i do the real double tracking in this one hahahaha)



any further suggestions guys? thanks for your replies....i appreciate it btw

It still sounds to me like a clean-ish guitar. Is your volume turned up all the way on your actual guitar when you record? Because that is nowhere NEAR as heavy of distortion as in the video you linked.