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Brother Mick know that we are brothers and I respect your opinion but based upon what I know I don't believe the theory you are going with here. I believe it "appears" to have originated in Wuhan China but even that is not 100% certain because no one knew there was such a virus until it was identified in Wuhan as a new strain. There is suspicion that it actually may have come from Europe much earlier in the year. Remember no one knew it existed until they identified in China, so people just thought it was just another really bad flu until they realized there was a beast on the loose and developed a test for it. . Virus's happen, virus's mutate it's a never ending story ever since living organism started living. This one is a Mutha Fucka.
Because I have been going to China and doing business in China for the last 14 years I certainly have a better perspective of the culture and the vibe of what is happening there than those that don't have that exposure. I also am in almost daily contact with multiple people that live there so I know what they did and how they were feeling as it started and progressed. China is an emerging country that is really trying to make it a better place for their people and the people of the world. Part of that is a little too much big brother for me with their control of media but watching how they handled the situation when they realized they had a serious virus spreading (Can you say serious hard ball) and how we here in the U.S. and most of the world played patty cake with the damn thing. My Chinese friends and business associates were pissed off and thought the government was way over reacting...(until they didn't) now a year later they are like damn...Big brother saved our ass...look at the rest of the world still suffering...Crazy...To be clear China wasn't the only country that pulled off the hard ball trick of NOT letting the virus become epidemic... South Korea, Vietnam and several other countries played serious hardball from the get go and guess what, they never had an epidemic. They are still playing hardball while we willy wonkas want our candy factory ( freedom to walk around without fear and a mask) back. Try flying to or entering into the Vietnam right now...hell no we don't want your cuties..If I was to fly into China today I would have to be tested within 24 hours of getting on the plane and then when I land I must stay quarantined at a government chosen hotel for 2 weeks ( on my dime) and then stay quarantined at wherever I am staying for another week before I can actually go about my business there... Can you say hard ball? Hell LA County with 10 million people had more cases and more deaths IN ONE DAY than China (with 1.4 billion people ) has had in the entire time this has been going on.....Trying to illustrate had badly we screwed the pooch and yet everyone wants to point fingers , place the blame on China. Fer Fucks sake take a look in the mirror and you'll be looking at the problem...spoiled little babies...I don't need to wear a mask, I don't need to be self distanced, I can go wherever I want...Gee it's not fair to shut down my business just to stop some virus that China created...It's their fault ..I hate them! I understand it's easy to say I am biased but seriously what have I got to gain by defending them other than get a ration of shit from uninformed haters. I am a pretty level headed person and strive to be objective and fair...
The word is "epistemology" (the study of the origin and validity of knowledge) If you really do your research you'll find that this urban legend about the Chinese lab worker who stole the bio-warfare virus from some lab here in the states and then took it to to China is all a bunch of distorted and manufactured gossip and then all the stories that propagated from that one just fostered the lie, you'd conclude as I do that at this time there is no evidence indicating this virus was created in a lab in China. Wow that was a long rant...
What's up, TAE. Have you been paying attention? Since my last post on this subject, the one to which you responded, things are changing. More and more are open to the consideration to my way of thinking. Covid19 originating from a lab in Wuhan is very much a possibility. In fact, it is a probability. There is a lot of backpedaling and attempts to save face from those who previously called the idea of lab origin a right wing conspiracy theory initiating from Bad Orange Man. Cancel culture kicking in to silence anyone who even thought it reasonable to at least discuss the possibility. Not only as it relates to Cov19, it's dangerous shit when media, government, and social media determine they will be the arbiters of truth, anyone who does not toe the line will be ridiculed and silenced. This is particularly crucial in the sciences where funding often relies on reputation.
I've avoided responding to your post, too lazy to write a lot. Much to write, much too lazy. For anyone who would rather skip this likely long post, I strongly suggest anyone with any interest in the subject to read a paper written by Nicholas Wade - Origins of Covid-19: Who Opened Pandora's Box At Wuhan - People or Nature. I became aware and read the paper not long following me previous post. It's a long paper, and it's been a while, so i'm working by memory here, and my terminology might be off.
Sure, as you say viruses mutate. We have been lead to believe that the virus came from bats, adapted or mutated to infect humans. A zoonotic jump from bat to human. Or from bats to another animal, and then to humans. It's a bat virus. In order for it to infect humans more efficiently it must mutate, adapt. This mutation requires natural selection, survival of the fittest virus cell, if you will. The virus cells that are less efficient to adapt to the new host die, and the progeny of the fittest becoming more adapted to infect the host through serial passage. However, until just somewhat recently, there was no evidence of mutation in Cov19. Out of the gate it was well adapted to human transmissibility. In fact it is more infectious to humans than it is to bats. In fact, bats are poorly infected by Cov19. In a study of infectious transmissibility in various species, Cov19 appears to be optimized to bind to human receptors. This all out of the gate, before mutation. This all strongly suggests Cov19 was engineered in a lab through Gain of Function.
These bats that carry viruses with the closest similarity to Cov19 live in caves 1,000 miles from the epicenter of the initial outbreak. Wuhan, China. There is no evidence to suggest the virus broke out elsewhere in China through zoonotic transmission before making its way through infected human to human contact to Wuhan.
Outside the box and there is no mention of anything of the sort in the paper: The initial outbreak was clustered along the subway line connecting at one end the Wuhan lab and the other the international airport. The Chinese military ultimately controls the lab in Wuhan and is involved in bio warfare. The economic pressure being placed on China from the previous US administration..........connect the dots to the possibility of intentional release of Cov19 by China.
See also from the paper "Furin Cleavage site". Better you to read than I attempt an explanation. However, "For the furin cleavage site to arise naturally in SARS2, a chain of events has to happen, each of which is quite unlikely for the reasons given above. A long chain with several improbable steps is unlikely to ever be completed." No other corona virus has ever had the most conveniently located furin cleavage site.
I might add, not unlike a long chain of improbable steps to happen that would result in the sham of the previous presidential election. But we're not supposed to talk about that either, are we?
Anyway, read the paper, brother. There is a lot to sort out there that strongly suggests it more probable that Cov19 was engineered in a lab than naturally from direct or indirect human contact with bats. It is my belief that the virus was engineered in a lab, in Wuhan China, and was either accidentally (or intentionally) released on the world.....with a tremendous loss of life and treasure.
btw, ask your friends in China how they feel about the Chinese governments treatment of the Uighurs. From what I hear there is slave labor, sterilization of the women, genocide. Ask them if it is true. Maybe that is something they can't talk about. Some things you can't talk about in communist China.................and increasingly so, unfortunately, in America as well.