Is the C-1 a HYPE?

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.......you know i was nosing around in here a bit, and ive come to the conclusion that some of you are a bit disappointed with the Studio projects C-1. Ive been looking around to demo one, but havent come across one in the stores. I will be in the market to buy a new mic for vocals and acoustic guitar very soon, and I was taking the C-1 seriously based on rep and word of mouth. I would appreciate any opinions on the subject, as well as any suggestions that would be a better choice........ thanks a million......mike:D
 
A few weeks ago I went out and bought a C-1. Two days later I was back at the store to buy a second one. In my opinion, there is no better valued condenser mike on the market, however that is only my opinion.

You don't have to make my word for it though, do what I did which was check out indi articles about the C-1. I think you will find there are not many who are "disenchanted" with it. There may be some who are looking for a little less clarity in order to help the vocals, but when I first plugged mine in I got goose bumps. I use them for vocals and for dual room mics for everything from acoustic instruments, to drum overheads. I have read they are pretty good on cabs too but I have never tried it.
 
Ive yet to see someone here or anywhere disappointed with the C1....its an awesome mic for the price......there are few mics in that price range that are as good or better.......
 
Say what ?

I've read tons of threads on the net that mentioned the C1, and I can't recall anyone who was "disappointed" with the C1..
Guernica, link me to some of these threads you speak of
 
Gidge,

I have to return a favour:)

On a par with the C1 is the Marshall V67 (Gidge correct me if I'm wrong), and is definitely worth considering from all past comments.

I have a C1 and love it, but was considering importing a V67 from the US as we don't have a distributor here.........UNTIL......, Harvey told me that the two mics were so similar that I wouldn't be gaining enough to warrant the import exercise.

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"better choice"

Well a Neumann U47 or Telefunken Elam 251 might be worth a try
if you've got 10 grand burning a hole in your pocket!

Seriously, the C1 is one of those microphones that'll put the ball back in
YOUR court as to giving an excellent accounting of where your sound is at.

Chris
 
I think there are more versatile mics out there. Like the v67, the C1 is more of a one-trick pony on vocals. And even then, there are others out there for the price that are just as good.

For a while the Studio Projects enjoyed a spot on top of the world for best bang-for-buck mics. But now, I would say Marshall Electronics has eclipsed them, while Audio Technica kicks both of their asses.
 
chessrock, with all due respect, and out of my natural curiosity, is your
assessment based on both/either personal use or professionally made
recordings.

Chris
 
The C1 is a very good mic. As far as web music, I'd say I've heard some real good quality tracked with this mic.

The Audio Technica AT3035 is a good mic as well. Even better is the AT4050.

The Rode NT1 is good also but it is a little more limited.

BTW, studiocat.com used to have a money back guarantee on the C1. Maybe it's still going.
 
ozraves said:
The C1 is a very good mic. As far as web music, I'd say I've heard some real good quality tracked with this mic.

The Audio Technica AT3035 is a good mic as well. Even better is the AT4050.

The Rode NT1 is good also but it is a little more limited.

BTW, studiocat.com used to have a money back guarantee on the C1. Maybe it's still going.
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I am instinctually the kind of guy to be skeptical whenever a piece of gear, a band, a movie, a book or anything seems overhyped. Generally, the masses are asses which is why shlock dominates in every category. The C1 though is celebrated bec its a great mic in any price range. It is NOT a one trick pony. It has worked on every voice Ive tried it on. Its nice on acoustic guitar, though not neutral, it can be huge on in front of an amp or 3 feet back. The only thing its not really good for is overheads bec its sensitive and picks up way too much bottom and the snares Ive tried it on dont sound good.

The NT1 is not in the same category as any of the other mics mentioned by ozraves. I would also buy a C1 before I got an AT4050. Not that the AT4050 is bad but there are alot of other mics I would get first.
 
chessparov said:
chessrock, with all due respect, and out of my natural curiosity, is your assessment based on both/either personal use or professionally made recordings.
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Well, both and neither.

I have a friend of mine and we're always swapping mics and various other goodies. I'm constantly swapping, in case anyone is curious. :) To clarify, when I said the C1 is a "one-trick-pony" on vocals, I meant that it is a good vocal mic, but not very good on other things. From my own experience, I have to say that it sucks as a drum overhead. Sorry. I feel the same way about the Rode NT2, by the way. and it doubly sucks as an accoustic guitar mic (something the NT2 shines on). It's okay on guitar amps - I was impressed with how close I could get without crapping the mic out. And I liked it ALOT on my voice. But not any more than my Marshall v93.

The AT4050 was another beast altogether, I will admit that. So we may be comparing apples to oranges. Unfreaking believeable on guitar amp . . . ditto for accoustic guitar. It works very well as an overhead, and it sounds good on my voice, but not spectacular.

The at4050 has a familiar sound to it - something I'm used to hearing on pop records. I liked it a lot when I played with it . . . and I like it just as much on just about every mic shootout I've heard it on. And yes, I DO give those at least some consideration. It's silly not to. And I don't know if it's a coincidence or not, but it seems like whenever I really like the sound of a mic on something done in the mp3 clinic, the name Audio Technica keeps popping up.

Oh, and I just tried out an ATM 25 (I swapped with Joe E from our own bbs) for one of my v67's not too long ago, and it is a fabulous little kick mic.

Take my comments with a grain of salt. I'm getting sick of Alan Hyatt using this board as his own personal Studio Projects Megaphone, and frankly, it's starting to resemble some major brainwashing. I could say the same thing about mindprint, but we won't get in to that. :) :) :) And also when I say how much I like AT's, part of it has to do with how much I like their kick mics. :)
 
Chess,

I have said my bit on the "Alan Hyatt" issue in that "other" thread for the time being.

However, I will take you to task on the C1...............I have used it regularly on vocals, acoustics and cabs since I purchased it sometime around August last year and found that like any mic on vocals, the C1 can be bloody wonderful on the right guitar. Obviously room acoustics and mic placement are going to be a big factor, so all I can suggest is you keep trying.

I wont bore you by qualifying MY OPINION, as it is just that......my opinion.

:cool:
 
I deleted a response because I am pissed off and said some things that wouldn't help the situation(but that doesn't mean that I think those statements weren't true).I think the spam police should get a special award for proving that a few people,even though the majority does not agree,are capable of producing results even though those results come at the expense of the majority.Way to go guys.I remember hearing something like"sometimes one person can make a difference but most of the time you shouldn't try".

Did you ever stop to think of the fact that the MAJORITY of the people here disagree with you?Or were you self bent on your self rightious crusade that other peoples opinions simply didn't matter to you anymore?Thanks dudes for removing one more voice of experience from our access.now I think you should tell me what books are ok to read and burn the rest.Or maybe make it so I can't smoke a joint in public,oh wait,other people who decided what was best for my self interest have already done that.Were they any relation to you guys or do you just share the same philosophy?Thank a shitload for saving me from my own ignorance.I guess I owe you guys one.
 
HOW great would you guys fell, that the C1 works on guitar cabs? Better than say a AT 4033 or not?
I'm wanting 1 good ld/md condenser in the $300 range, and the AT 4033 and C1 seem my best bet. (C1 is $314 in Holland :( )
Ofcourse I'll be using it on vocals and acoustic guitar, but I want it to shine on cabs as well.
Whaddayathink?
 
Heck Randy, If you are going to post like that why not leave the first one there so everyone doesnt think you have gone mental.

I can see what you are a little nuts about, that B1 got alot of good reviews before It got shipped, but now that it is shipped some of the reviews can be read with confidence.

Theres no reason to get bent out of shape, this is only an internet forum.
 
Darrin,I guess I have gone a little mental.I deleted the first post because it was full of swears and really if anything served no purpose except to fan the flames.

I have seen on another forum where Alan has decided not to post here anymore and it's got me a bit ballistic,I feel that Alan was a valuable member of this forum and it ticked me off that he was constantly put on the defensive.Previous threads have shown that the majority of people here had no problem with Alan but a few people had to ride him every chance they got regardless of the opinions of the majority of the members here.

I for one,am sad to see Alan go but I can understand his perspective.I have a problem when a vocal minority has a negative effect on the majority especially when there seems to be so many nice people here that don't deserve to suffer because of a few people.Look at this thread for example,Alan had absolutely nothing to do with it,he didn't even post in it but still he got his balls busted.No one deserves to be treated like that.
 
Randy, if you want to talk mics with the guy, he is very accessible. It sounds like you've already found another forum where he likes to hang . . . and I've talked to him extensively over the phone and via email at various times. And he's a very fun guy to talk to in that context. I think I know the forum you speak of, and it sounds like a good place for him. Frankly, I think the whole idea behind that forum is experts answer your questions, and in return you have to put up with them advertising their books to you. But the deal is that everyone there knows exactly what they're getting in to, and it's part of an unwritten agreement.

Here, it's different. We have very clear rules against unpaid advertisement and self-promotion, where as with the other one, self-promotion is part of what it is built on. And the beauty of the matter is that this is the internet and we have a choice. Go there for good info. from experts knowing there will be advertisements, and come here to talk recording with fellow home recordists and various experts who simply share their time with no other strings attached.
 
Chess, do me a favour and name the forum you refer to.

Then explain to me why, when the founder (Dragon, as I understand it) of this forum has chosen not to act in this matter, (and God knows enough people have tried to make issue of it), that you or anyone else have the right to attempt to impose your interpretation of "THE RULES" on others here. Shouldn't that be left to the sites administrators and moderators if they see fit.........? Or do you see yourself to be "above" these people?

:mad:
 
Randy Yell said:
I have seen on another forum where Alan has decided not to post here anymore and it's got me a bit ballistic,I feel that Alan was a valuable member of this forum and it ticked me off that he was constantly put on the defensive.Previous threads have shown that the majority of people here had no problem with Alan but a few people had to ride him every chance they got regardless of the opinions of the majority of the members here.
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Randy I totally agree with you, and the people who flame Alan are idots. These are the same bozos who bitch because a manufacturer ignores them and they can't get their questions answered.

Alan has every RIGHT to be here just like anyone else and he has right to his opinion, I have never seen him spamming. He is helpful and responsive and those of us that use his products appreciate it. It seems the ones complaining are the only people who like some other companies products. Just because some one makes a living in the professional audio business doesn't mean they are dishonest or full of hype.

I have been in the market for a new reverb and spent a lot of time on the TC web site. I sent them a long email with some questions and concerns about some of the things they were doing. NEVER heard a squeak out of them. They didn't even have the courtesy send me an automated reply. This tells me they could careless about their customers. Lexicon here I come.

I for one appreciate any company who makes themselves available to answer my questions and correct misinformation about their products. I am smart enough to reconize smoke from fire and a user forum is not the end all to making a purchase.

If you don't want to read Alan's post then go to your profile and add him to your Ignore List then move on and leave the rest of us alone who value his expertise.

The Mic
Who are you people ? I can't believe you get your shorts in a knot over a $200 mic. I bought a C1 a few months ago and just bought a second one. Its a good mic for the money and it does a great job in a number of situations. But is it the only mic I own or will ever own. NO.

There is and never will be ONE mic that does every thing perfectly, not even the industry standard U-87 ! I can't believe we are even having this discussion.

Here is the bottom line...
If you can't make your own decisions then there are enough reviews and enough people who own these mics who like them that a C1 is a no-brainer purchase. Plop down your $229, try the mic. If you don't like it there are 3 dozen people on this forum alone who will buy it from you or put it ebay. Then take that money and buy a SM57 and GO RECORD SOME THING !
 
Randy Yell said:
I have seen on another forum where Alan has decided not to post here anymore and it's got me a bit ballistic, I feel that Alan was a valuable member of this forum and it ticked me off that he was constantly put on the defensive. Previous threads have shown that the majority of people here had no problem with Alan but a few people had to ride him every chance they got regardless of the opinions of the majority of the members here.

I for one, am sad to see Alan go but I can understand his perspective. I have a problem when a vocal minority has a negative effect on the majority especially when there seems to be so many nice people here that don't deserve to suffer because of a few people. Look at this thread for example,Alan had absolutely nothing to do with it, he didn't even post in it but still he got his balls busted. No one deserves to be treated like that.
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I didn't see the forum where Alan announced he was not going to post here again, but if that's true, I am personally saddened by his decision, which would be a true loss to this forum. Regardless of what a few people might think, Alan is a gentleman and his contributions to this forum were very valuable, at least to me.

I know it has caused me to seriously re-think my position as to whether I will continue to post here or not. Whether people appreciate Alan's or Stephen Paul's demeanor or not, both of these people are friends of mine and I find some people's accusations and attitudes deplorable.

For me to sit by and do nothing while people are taking potshots at my friends would be very wrong. Alan owns Studio Projects, and everybody knows that. He makes no secret of it. Where is the "hidden agenda" in that?

This latest round of verbal abuse against Alan is uncalled for and is totally disgusting to me. Let me make this perfectly clear: Alan and Stephen are friends of mine; good friends. When people trash Alan and Stephen, I really don't like that.

Yes, everybody has a right to voice "their opinions", but I also have a right to object to the manner in which they do it, and I also have the right to decide my future course of action, based upon whether or not this forum provides me with sufficient reasons to continue to post here.

I really wish that this post didn't come off sounding like a threat. Unfortunately, that's exactly what it is. While I've enjoyed posting here, I have a lot of other places that I can be, and perhaps accomplish the same things; to try to educate people about what to listen for and how things work.
 
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